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Name: Tarage 2004-12-24 5:26

Well... unfortionatly, even with Moot's best efforts, I can already see a thread full of "omg bush suxorz..." ect.

Well, for once, I'm going to head it all off. Since this place is SO new, I'm going to do something unheard of... I'm making this a Pro Bush thread.

Yes, you heard me right. I voted for Bush. I am 19 years old, and I am very aware of the issues. I plan to vote all my life. Bush's tax cuts helped my family and partially allowed me to go to college. I wish he would drop the whole "amnisty for illegals", but, I doubt he will. I think he handled Sept 11th with a quiet grace. While I know he is prone to make mestakes when speaking, I'd like to see someone who hasn't. The fact that he is so soft spoke, yet so smart, greatly impresses me. He served his country, in a different way that Kerry. However, he did more than Clinton did, so he gets points with me.

So... I could continue listing things that make me like thus guy, but frankly, I'd like to find some people who agree with me. Yes yes, I know people exist who's life goal has been to humiliate the man, but lets hear from the people who actually like him. Obviously, more than half the country does...

Anyway, I don't know if I should be bold enough to keep this a pro bush thread, or give in to the fact that probably, this thread will turn into a mix of good and bad. But just, try to keep it civil.

And... no talk of killing him. As much as you hate the guy, there is no reason to want to kill him. Don't use that type of anger here.

-Tarage

Name: Kay 2004-12-24 17:06

#17 This is the second time I "hear" someone speak out the name of John Maynard Keynes apart from my politics-lessons. So hail, friend. ^_-

I fully agree in all points, but I think you have to make a difference between Keynes' theories and Bush's economy-programs.
First of all it should be clear that the United States have a huge poverty-scale, more than any other "Western" country (afaik). Lower taxes do not help as we see, but they CAN have a positive influence on the economy when it is needed. "Rich people don't need the money." So they can be more or less excluded from this! Also the theory says that those taxes may raise again when the economy has recoverd for it is just a program for longer periods of lower growth. But taxes alone does not make it better...

The other point is the deficit spending! Yes, Bush does a lot of it, but not the way it was ment. Depts should help to replace the missing demand and charge to capacity. Now the money flows nowhere an with nowhere I mean the Iraq-war. Billions of dollars are spend and the only winner is the weapon manufacturer, but to make sence you mustn't buy a tank but build a school or homes for old people so you have a lasting effort and the profit goes to those who have a use of it (middle class companies etc.). These are just simple examples, of course. It's not Keynes' logic that fail, but Bush's interpretation.

~Just my 2cents and I hope no misunderstandings will be born out of my bad English. >_<

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