violent j and shaggy are 2 of the toughest mother fuckers to step on a stage or in a ring, but icp does'nt make up all of psychopathic records, you got to be down wit twiztid, blaze boondox, amb, dark lotus, psychopathic rydas, and j's bro, jumpsteady, and even do they dont work for the company, u gotta be down wit abk and esham