Than Hungarian and Finnish. Or even better, Hungarian and Khanty/Mansi. Face it, we are descended from Nimrod and ancient Sumer and your faulty made-up evidence won't change it.
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Anonymous2011-01-20 6:24
>>1
Those are borrowed words though. There are several words in the Finno-Ugric languages that have the same root.
It is solely up to discretion when there is no written evidence, to decide whether a word is part of the language or it was borrowed (and then we have the issue of who borrowed from whom).
>>5
>Implying it is exclusive to "Finno-Ugric" languages.
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Anonymous2011-01-20 6:30
The Uralic theory has got to be one of the biggest Jewish lies ever sold in the world of linguistics.
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Anonymous2011-01-20 6:32
Jobbik is calling for the rethinking of the Finno-Ugric linguistic theory based on fraudulent reasonings and politically motivated arguments. In a letter to the Hungarian Academy of Sciences, Jobbik challenges members of the institution to reexamine traditionally held views on the origin of Hungarians that had been part of the national consciousness before the Finno-Ugric theory was introduced into national awareness by the Habsburgs.
The Habsburgs, by all means, wanted to eradicate the commonly held view of national origin. In order to do that they commissioned foreign linguists to construct a fake narrative that was alien to the native notion of history; the goal was to break national resistance by depriving the nation of its traditional views of history that posed an obstacles to Habsburg colonization.
The Finno-Ugric language theory and the fraudulent arguments about the origin of Hungarians concocted by German linguists a century ago. Before, Hungarians had an altogether different view about their own origin. They held that they were the descendants of Hun-Scythian ancestors.
The story of Hun-Scythian origin has survived in oral and written forms and are supported by Greek, Arabic, Iranian and Chinese historical documents.
Genetic research that has been conducted, recently, in the regions once belonged to the Soviet empire, shows that Hungarians have no genetic relationship with the Finno-Ugric people. These new findings have already reflected in the Finnish school textbooks. Finns are already distancing themselves from the Finno-Ugric fairy tale.
In order to survive globalization people have to know their true history, otherwise loose their identities as the global elite has been conducting a clandestine war on national cultures. The aim is to uproot human beings from their social environments that provide protective surroundings for them. The displaced masses can be manipulated and used as mindless consumers--an ultimate goal of those who rule the world. The global landscape is already full of socially engineered human beings (“experts without spirit, sensualist without heart” --Goethe); these are the people that make up the bulk of consumer societies. They function as tools rather than spiritual beings in the hands of the global elite.
What Jobbik wants is a healthy debate about all aspects of Hungarian history. It is not the intention of Jobbik to interfere with scientific research or by any means restrict scientific freedom, but rather, inspire scientists to examine the contradictions inherent in the Finno-Ugric narrative.
In the spirit of this outlook, Jobbik supports the establishment of new university departments and other civic workshops devoted to the research of the history and the origin of Hungarians. It calls for the establishment of a new institution dedicated solely to the research of the ancient history of Hungarians. Jobbik also calls for the revision of textbooks of the elementary and high schools, in order to let children and young people getting acquainted with the true history of their ancestors, as early as possible.
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Anonymous2011-01-20 8:26
Hungarians descend from a group Magyars led by Árpád originating from a region near the Ural Mountains and the Volga River. In 896 they formally established a nation in the Carpathian Basin. Did they come from "Asia"? Yes.
Does that automatically make them "Oriental" or "Turkic"? No, it does not. The ancestors to the Germans came from India. Are you calling Germans non-white because they have "Asian" ancestors?
For Hungarians being "non-white", the German House of Habsburg considered them to be equals. Romanians, Czechs, and Poles never had that honor. It was called AUSTRIA-HUNGARY.
For Hungarians being "non-white", they were allied with the Nazis in World War II and were allowed to join the Waffen-SS.
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Anonymous2011-01-20 8:32
Throughout history nobody was "forced" to speak the Hungarian language. In fact other people have tried all they can to get the Hungarians to abandon their language and traditional ways. If there was any "Magyarization" going on do you think there would've been so many non-Hungarian minorities at the end of World War I?
There is a some evidence though that a few cases of Magyarization took place in the 1800s, although most of the "converted" already had some Hungarian ancestry. Petőfi Sándor being a famous example.
There is no doubt though, that the vast majority of the Hungarian speakers today are an ethnolinguistic continuation of the original Magyars.
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Anonymous2011-01-20 8:35
It's called, we don't need so many god damn vowel sounds. Some of you fuckers need three syllables to say dot.
>>12
They have a whole alphabet devoted to foreign words: katakana.
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Anonymous2011-01-20 10:00
>>13
Not proof, katakana is older than European contact with Japan.
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Anonymous2011-01-20 10:08
>>14
You want me to provide a list of all the katakana words for English borrowed words? There's literally thousands. スーパー (supa) = super. コンピュータ (konpyuta) = computer. ハンバーガー (hanbaga) = hamburger.
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Anonymous2011-01-20 11:10
>>15
No, I want to see a source that states the number of similar words shared between English and Japanese, and between Hungarian and Finnish.
Japanese has a lot of loanwords taken from English, but Hungarian and Finnish have lots of loanwords from English and other European languages too.