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Pedastry

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-03 5:11

What are your views on male pederasty as practiced by the ancient Greeks? Some of the most successful armies and societies were built on this model of older males being mentors and tutors to adolescent males. both academically and romantically. Is it time for a revival? Here's how it worked:

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Athenian pederasty entailed a formal bond between an adult man and an adolescent boy outside his immediate family, consisting of loving and often sexual relations. As an erotic and educational custom it was initially employed by the upper class as a means of teaching the young and conveying to them important cultural values, such as bravery and restraint.

Athenian society generally encouraged the erastes to pursue a boy to love, tolerating excesses like sleeping on the youth's stoop and otherwise going to great lengths to make himself noticed. At the same time, the boy and his family were expected to put up resistance and not give in too easily, and boys who succumbed too readily were looked down upon. As a result, the quest for a desirable eromenos was fiercely competitive.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-03 5:29

lol. Suck my shit-stained anus, faggot.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-03 6:24

Well, the Spartan army was superior to the Athenian army, and they didn't diddle kids.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-03 6:52

I know but Shii fucks 13 year old girls.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-03 6:54

>>4
Herp durp.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-03 6:56

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-03 7:17

>>6
Herp durp.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-03 7:17

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-03 7:24

>>8
Herp durp.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-03 7:25

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-03 8:28

>>3
You get too much of your history from movies.  Actually the Spartans did have an aspect to their sexual culture that was similar to that described in the OP, as did the Samurai.  That being said...
>>1
This is not the kind of cultural practice that can be revived.  It develops organically as the result of very different social and environmental factors.  It won't, and shouldn't happen in contemporary Western cultures for many reasons, not the least of which being the fact that the overwhelming majority of contemporary Western men are not only not sexually attracted to other men, young or old, but find the idea repugnant.  Also, the progress of individual human development has changed.  The development of a twelve year old child from any culture 2000 years ago would put a modern 18 year old to shame. 
So give it up.  We like to be pretty casual here in the /lounge/, but make no mistake, most of us have little tolerance for pedos.  There are other places for that kind.

Name: !MILKRIBS4k 2010-02-03 9:13

>>1
Wow, sounds a little queer!

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-03 10:29

>>12
Are you insulting the ancient greeks ?!

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-03 13:11

The Greeks' own boss God, Zeus, was a pederast who abducted a boy named Ganymede (the solar system's largest moon is named for him) because he was so attractive to Zeus.  The abduction is a subject of artworks, such as The Rape of Ganymede painted by Rembrandt, another painted by Rubens, and oddly in a Buddweiser ad.  The English word catamite, the object of the pederast's action, is derived from Ganymede's name.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganymede_(mythology)

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-04 3:15

This topic is intellectual, the kind of topic that the sophisticated loungers want as we sip martinis.

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