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Obongo Healthcare

Name: Anonymous 2010-01-31 15:04

The health care bill is shit. It mandates that people buy insurance while, at the same time, it doesn't include enough subsidy dollars to ensure that the very poorest are able to buy coverage. Don't worry, though, the very poorest are excluded from the mandate and aren't forced to buy any insurance (nor does the bill give them any) - so the universal health care bill we were promised doesn't grant universal health care at all. It does, however, raise costs for everyone who already has health insurance - by taxing health insurance premiums on so-called "Cadillac" plans, and also through new fees directed at insurers themselves.

 All of these costs must, inevitably, be passed onto and absorbed by those who are already insured. Thus, for the >85% of Americans who already have health insurance, this bill does nothing but increase their costs of care. The bill also makes deep cuts into medicare spending, by eliminating many yearly increases to benefits that medicare recipients used to be able to count on. This has the effect of ensuring that every year inflation will eat away at the actual value that medicare recipients get from their benefits - costs will continue to rise - but medicare payments will stay flat. This just shows how the Obama administration is willing to fuck those who already depend on the government for their health care in order to score some political points. Just another great reason not to hand over something this important to the government. Who cares if the bill socialist, capitalist, whatever? The most important thing is that the bill is fucking stupid, and helps almost no one it is purported to help.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-02 7:04

bump

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-02 7:09

Who's Obongo?

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-03 3:47

>>3
obama

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-03 4:55

Well then, OP should proofread his post before hitting the "Create new thread" button.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-03 5:05

>>5
Its an affectionate nickname coined by right wingers

Name: !MILKRIBS4k 2010-02-03 9:18

>>1
Why don't we just take money from the extremely rich and distribute it amongst the poor?

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-03 9:25

>>7
Why don't we just take money from you? Because you don't have any.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-03 9:49

>>7
Commie bastard

Better dead than an anus!

Name: !MILKRIBS4k 2010-02-03 10:02

>>9
How is that communism!

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-03 10:28

>>10
Girls don't ask guys out because girls are cowards. They're more insecure than you and more scared of rejection. Now go ask her out.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-03 10:32

>>10
fuck you nigger ass black dolomiter, i bet you're one of those communist fans of obamanation

Name: mindless 2010-02-03 12:54

the requirement to have healthcare is going to be helped, in theory, by the creation of insurance exchanges, which are a weak substitute for the public option, which the GOP basically fucked us out of. Which is sad, because the vast majority of economists agree that nothing anywhere could come close to cutting medicare costs, the deficit, and healthcare costs as a public option would. Since every other industrialized nation on earth has some form of public healthcare, and has resultantly cheaper and more secure services, it stands to reason that we should too, you ignorant douche.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-03 13:00

>>12
stop baiting reasonable people with your retarded USA trollery.  Your grits are ready.  USA USA USA

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-03 13:51

>>12
* African American

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-04 1:07

>>13
Notice how many of those other 'industrialized' nations you speak of are global superpowers. That's right, none of them. So why should we try to emulate those country's domestic policies when they are trying so hard to emulate ours? One of the things that makes America unique is that we forge new paths with political and social philosophy. Healthcare probably does need to undergo some changes, but implementing some other 'one-size-fits-all' strategy is a losing tactic. Also, The US is the most technologically advanced nation in the world, so it makes sense that healthcare here would be more expensive than elsewhere. Our hospitals use the latest technology, and medical technology doesn't come cheap. Perhaps a socialized model of healthcare doesn't apply to the US? Obongo et al. need to start from fucking scratch and come up with something new and shiny that will actually work, not just look mediocre on paper.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-04 2:36

>>16
fuck off you trolltard, your USA shit is bad reading for the rest of us in the world.  USA USA USA

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-04 2:44

>>17
Listen here, jerkface.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-04 2:47

>>18
Listen here, jerkface.  This a good place with good people.  This is not your personal shit room.  For shame.  For shame.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-04 2:53

>>19
Bawwww, you can have it. All 40 acres and the mule too! Stupid nigger.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-04 2:59

>>20
Fuck off you USA shithead.  EAT YOUR GRITS
USA USA USA

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-04 2:59

>>20
Why do you still come here?  Aren't you in your 20s by now?

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-04 3:01

>>20
GIT 'ER DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-04 3:02

>fuck off you trolltard, your USA shit is bad reading for the rest of us in the world.  USA USA USA
>Listen here, jerkface.  This a good place with good people.  This is not your personal shit room.  For shame.  For shame.
>Our pride is gayer than gay pride; that's how gay it is.  I mean the good kind of gay.  With dudes.
>back to mental hospital please
>even you don't know what the fuck you are talking about, so don't expect anyone else too either

Troll exposed. Go eat a kitten. Vick-style.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-04 3:04

>>24
what that, you say you need more grits?  Better stuff your USA guts!

USA USA USA

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-04 3:08

>>25
>I mean the good kind of gay.  With dudes.

GIT 'ER DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-04 3:08

>>26
GIT 'ER DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!! GRITS!!!!!!!!!

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-04 3:14

>>25
oh, sorry james, i didn't realize it was you. i loved your movie avatar and it taught me to hate my country and myself which is the way people in other countries want me to feel because it satiates their inferiority complex. you are so always so wise in your exposure of hypocrisy, that fundamental flaw that infects all of humanity.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-04 3:17

>>28
type louder, maybe we'll hear you better

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-04 3:24

>>29
i dunno, i was hittin them keys pretty fuckin hard, in the midst of gittin er dun and all. must be the grits.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-04 3:24

>>30
FUCK YEAH GRITS!!!!!!!!!!!

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-04 3:25

MORE GRITS RELATED TOPICS PLEASEs

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-04 3:29

GRITS AND SPAM, SPAM AND GRITS, I KNOW YOU CAN, NOW SHOW ME TITS

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-04 3:31

Oh man, business idea, to compete with Hooters, it's a place called Tits 'n' Grits

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