>>3
Explanation: Nothingness isn't a concept that exists independent of the word nothingness, it can't be conceived of without using the framework and the reference points given by language. Unfortunately, reality does not exist within the framework of language, so the OP contains absolutely nothing of value. You cannot use language to describe, or conceive of, abstract concepts outside the human experience.
>>6
all concepts are abstract, numbnuts. have you ever really seen a true circle for example
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Anonymous2009-10-11 2:42
>>10
Is it retardation that prevents you from reading entire sentences? You cannot use language to describe, or conceive of, abstract concepts outside the human experience.
A circle is within the framework of language, nothingness is not.
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Anonymous2009-10-11 2:59
Theory: There is no such thing as nothing. There was never a time when nothing existed, and never a place where nothing existed. Nothing is not possible and never will be.
Proof (semantic and literal): There is no time when nothing could have existed, or it would not have existed. There is no place where nothing exists--or it wouldn't exist.
Conclusion: There is no literal edge of the universe, where on this side it exists and on the other, nothing. It is not possible, semantically or literally.
The Universe is an infinite but closed system.
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Anonymous2009-10-11 3:48
>>12
Surely you can see that your proof is entirely semantic. Words like "existence', "infinity", "time" have no real meaning because they allude to phenomena that we cannot conceive of outside of arbitrary limits set by our language. Your theory is flawed because it's base assumptions are arbitrary, your proof is circular, and your conclusion is a jumble of words that lose all meaning when applied to this topic. F.
>>13 have no real meaning because they allude to phenomena that we cannot conceive of outside of arbitrary limits set by our language
What about space? Or numbers? Aren't they infinite??
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Anonymous2009-10-11 5:09
>>16
Numbers are patterns that can get infinitely complex, within a set of constant parameters. When the word infinite is applied to space it has no meaning because there are no conceivable parameters to base your conception of the term on.
>>21
Well he needs at least some kind of grey matter to be able to post to /lounge/. So it's not completely empty, although much is missing.
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Anonymous2009-10-11 12:10
>>11
You have demonstrated that you do not understand what a circle is supposed to be.
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Anonymous2009-10-11 12:12
>>13
stop talking about language you goof, you sound broken
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Anonymous2009-10-11 12:15
>>17
of course it has meaning. just because our ideas are nonsense doesn't mean that we don't mean something when we use them.
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Anonymous2009-10-11 12:20
OP here
nothing is that which is not.
if something is not nothing, then it is not not.
nothing has no characteristics,
no qualities,
no capacities.
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Anonymous2009-10-11 12:26
lol, you're all a bunch of Nihilists. And you all talk about this "nothingness" while sipping your favorite frappachino at your local Starbucks with other like-minded individuals. Don't even try to deny it.
>>32
The astral plane is not magic, and saying that shows how stupid you actually are! >>33 NO THANK YOU
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Anonymous2009-10-11 15:51
>>27
You misunderstand. The whole point is that there is no thing in existence that is nothing, by simple definition. Nothing can't be, nothing can't have been, and nothing can't ever be. Nothing has no capacity for production of something. For if nothing had any ability whatsoever, then it would violate its own nonexistence.
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Anonymous2009-10-11 16:22
>>34
Wow, that's nice! But how about you provide actual proof that astral plane is not magic?
>>37
Okay; I will read a book on astral planes when you make ten consecutive posts without mistakes. It's not that hard.
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Anonymous2009-10-11 23:16
>>35
As has been stated many times in this thread, you're conception of nothingness is limited by language. Language only works as a tool of conception when it is applied to things within the human experience. Your reasoning is futile.