Now I haven't read much about logic or stuff so if someone could formulate my problem with a better language I'd be thrilled.
Let's say God is omniscient.
Because of his omniscience he will only act in one way, seeing how he's because of mentioned omniscience seeing himself act in the future, now and the past.
Now let's take a soul.
God is the creator of all souls, since he is the creator of everything. Which means that he makes a conscious decision when creating a particular soul. Because of his omniscience he will see this souls future before he's even created it, he will see whether or not this soul will sin or not.
Now here comes my point:
If God is truly omniscient, then why does he knowingly create souls that inevitably will sin and revolt against God, thus being condemned to hell?
The way one can explain this is if God's either not:
Omniscient
or
All benevolent
What do you guys think?
Did I think it through this time?
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Nanami2008-05-23 15:19
If someone know logic argumentation and such and could clarify or simplify what I wrote I'd be glad but until then I 'll just have to give it another shoot:
The Christian God(or Islamic, Jewish or w/e) is said to posses omnipotence and omniscience in addition to all-benevolence and a will/desire to do good.
God himself has already defined what is Good and what is Evil through the ten commandments and later on through the teachings of Jesus Christ.
Now since God is omniscient he will only act in one possible way, since he will also see himself act in the past, present and the future of our time. That's just part of his nature, every decision he's taken or is gonna take is already taken at any given moment in our own world since he is also said to exist outside of our own time.
Let' take a look at the nature of souls now:
Genesis 2:7 "And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."
Ecclesiastes 12:7 "Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it"
Ergo, according to Christianity God creates the human soul.
Most Christians also believe that when people die their souls will be judged by God, who sees all the wrong and right that they have done during their lives. If they have repented of their sins and accepted Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, they will inherit eternal life in Heaven and enjoy eternal fellowship with God. Christians believe that if one has not repented of his sins and not accepted Jesus Christ, he will go to Hell, and suffer eternally as they are separated of God. This is the teaching of most evangelical, Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches, which constitute the majority of Christianity, though there are some that believe the soul will be destroyed in hell, instead of suffering eternally, but that doesn't have any bearing on my arguments, au contraire really.
Now then comes the meat of my post:
A. God create all souls
B. God sees all souls that will suffer damnation before he even created them.
C. Therefore God is consciously creating souls that are determined to sin and consequently be punished in hell.
How can such a God be all-benevolent if he creates souls that have nothing but hell in their own future?
Either he's not all-benevolent, making it perfectly fine for him to create and punish millions of souls.
Or he's not omniscient, making it impossible for him see a souls future with 100% certainty.
I'm sure there's a couple of questions that you will ask so I'll just save you the trouble and answer them directly:
What about free will?
It's irrelevant since a God that is omniscient will see your future with 100% certainty, meaning that no matter what choices you make while you live you can't change the future that God has already seen.
God decides what is Good and Wrong, therefore it's perfectly fine for him to create souls that will only remind the rest of us that heaven is something we have to work for.
No, since God has already said what is Good and Wring through the Bible and Jesus. Bu this is rather meta and hypothetical, much like my arguments lol.