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Name: Anonymous 2006-06-11 18:32

Lately I've been thinking about becomming a furry. I own a fursuit. I only leave the house in a fursuit. I've learned to communicate using hand signals as to stay in my "fursona". I will only respond to others when addressed as my "fursona" Billy the Tiger. I actively take part in online communities involving people depicted as animorphic humanoids. I've actively update my deviant art account with furry works of art. My livejournal is part of a network of furry communities. I constantly share my fur views with others online. And I'm planning to attend a local furcon in costume, in fursona next month.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-11 18:47 (sage)

In any online imgboard community, there will be a variety of kinks catered to. Some people like their women excessively obese, some really like feet, some like women enjoying the pleasures a penis has to offer, some love the power play of bondage/submission (on either side of the coin), some like half human half animal hybrids, some like the humiliation or forced humiliation of exhibitionism, age play, some like transformations or processes from normalcy to one of these special interests, possibly forced, and so on and so on. This is what we call fetishes. Fetishes are rooted deep in the human psyche, and can usually be traced back to some childhood experience, one person can have a whole slew of them and many can remain dormant throughout someone's lives. You don't learn to have a fetish by exposure to it in the same way you don't catch the gay from shaking hands with a gay man, you learn you have a fetish by getting sexually aroused by something you never thought would tickle you that way.

Many of these fetishes are frowned upon by those people who don't feel the same way about them. Some people will never understand why it would be arousing to tie someone else up, why there's anything sexually attractive about mixing man and animal, why the humiliation of forcing someone to wear a diaper is a turn-on for some, how fat women can ever be sexy. Some of these are just closed-minded individuals with a sad lack of imagination, others involve in retarded "my fetish is better than your fetish" disrespect, but the large majority simply accepts their own fetishes and shrugs off the fetishes of someone else. That's how a sense of community forms on the imgboards: perverts among perverts, and everything is fine.

Now there were originally plenty of imgboards that allowed the full spread of fetishes - BDSM, furry, dickgirls, watersports, giant women, you name it. Then legal letters inevitably started flying. "Take down my art or else". "You're posting my friend's art without permission, we're going to contact your ISP and shut your site down". "You're violating intellectual property copyrights, you're scum". For some reason these complaints weren't lodged by the artist who drew Chun Li urinating over Ken. This wasn't the artist who drew Vegeta waking up as a woman. Time and time again, it turned out to be the furry artists who, either by their own discovery or after being alerted by their fans, wrote angry cease & desist letters to the hosts of the imgboards. Other than the hosting costs, all the other fetishes were a breeze to support, but now they suddenly had to deal with legal threats because of one specific category - furry art. Hosting an imgboard is a pretty thankless task to begin with, and brings enough hassle with it for most people to throw in the towel after a while regardless of such complications. Imgboard hosts can't afford to monitor all their boards 24/7 to police people around, so with mounting "legal pressure" (the legal part shouldn't be taken seriously, but it takes only a few letters to a hosting company to create enough of a problem for a board admin to be forced to take measures) they were forced to simply reject the one category that was causing problems, so the rest of their board could exist in peace. Furries didn't want their art on the boards, so they got their wish, and everyone was content, right?

Wrong. Some other furries, that didn't care one bit about intellectual property rights (and who else would post DNP furry art than irresponsible furries themselves?), noticed their fetish being singled out for rejection. Now instead of realizing their fetish was being a burden on the free service they were using, some chose to see it as not just a violation of their right to use the forum, but as a personal attack on their sexual interests, as sheer unreasonable hatred for their self-perceived lifestyle. It was they who didn't understand the problem, who didn't try to understand the problem, who remained close-minded about the fact that it was their own community that was trying to stop them from posting furry art. They first started with threads demanding the return of their boards. Some would disregard the ban and force the sort of trouble on the moderators that they had attempted to avoid in the first place. "Invasions" of boards would occur. Because of their complaints of "fursecution" and selfish attitude on a free service, the constant whining about being hated and repressed, they made a name for themselves as a bother, and the slowly the imaginary hatred became reality.

The furry "minority" that keeps being brought up is the minority that doesn't want to face the fact that it's their own community that is making it hard for them to coexist with other fetishes. There's countless people who would technically be considered 'furry' because sexual interest in anthropomorphism among other fetishes is part of their nature, but who don't want to be associated with that community at all because of its self-righteous isolationism. It's you who created the sharp "us and them" culture, your community is not a refuge against misunderstanding and closed-mindedness, it's pure thick-headed seperatism. The way the media portrays furry is the same way they portray other fetishes - they show the retarded extremes. You never see a show about a couple that likes to use fluffy handcuffs in bed, you see the show where the wife suspends her husband by his penis. Wow, BDSM sure is fucked up. And yet BDSM-related fetishes have never turned into a problem for anyone, because their enthusiasts accept that not everyone has the same sexual interests as them.

For some reason, furries seem to keep forgetting the real reason why they can't be supported on regular imgboards. Every time the topic is brought up, like in this thread, there's the inevitable claim of being disrespected because of their fetish. The "furry minority" refuses to accept that most people don't disapprove of their sexual interests at all, and merely disapprove of what those same vocal furries have made themselves stand for - trouble. Too much trouble to support in an otherwise happy perverts among perverts community. If it really was hatred for your sexual interests, wouldn't this thread be filled with "WHY DON'T YOU GO FUCK A DOG" "OMG YOU WANK TO ANIMAL PENISES"? It's people trying their hardest to tell you what the problem really is, but you're not open-minded enough to listen and accept it, and you're poisoning the entire Internet community with the drama you stir up because of your misconceptions. The irony is that every time a furry comes to whine about being "fursecuted", he's reinforcing the very stigma that he's trying to fight. "Fursecution" only exists in your own head as a self-nurturing cancer. You're not special. We're all perverts in different ways, and some of those ways are a lot kinkier than yours. If you really want to prove that furries are acceptable members of the perverts among perverts community, STOP THE FUCKING WHINING ALREADY.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-11 18:48 (sage)

Counting yourself as part of a community immediately creates the concept of 'outsiders'. That in itself is a form of closed-mindedness - you create a 'clique' of like-minded individuals in order to decrease exposure to what you claim is some form of ancient hatred of your 'kind'. The problem with this is that such a community, with a shared 'enemy', will never bother to try to find fault within themselves. It's all unreasonable, one-sided hatred directed at you after all, isn't it? Then from that superficial safety, you begin lashing out at other people, bemoaning how they don't try to understand you and how they should be more open-minded and how you never did anything wrong.

Now what I wonder is - what have you yourself done recently to solve this issue, if it's such a terrible problem for you? In any conflict -both- sides are expected to mediate, but you're all so damn convinced of your community-enforced ideas that nothing short of full surrender to your terms seems acceptable. And when entering a discussion with that attitude, all you're going to get (and deserve) is a hearty "fuck you". At this point people are so sick and tired of the whining that they're perfectly content with rejecting you outright. What do you  offer to actually encourage people to be more open-minded? That we might eventually be "tolerated" by your community as "outsiders"? That's just fucking precious.

I typed lengthy paragraphs detailing specifically why a furry board here can't work, in response to the actual OP. That issue is quite seperate from the entire concept of 'fursecution', it's simply a matter of administrative complications involved with the art and its artists in question - it's not feasible for any host to deal with on top of regular problems such as server costs. Yet there isn't a hint of understanding or comprehension on that specific subject so far, instead there's more playing the victim, baseless accusations and demands for acceptance with nothing to show in return, cowering behind subjective or untestable claims like "you don't understand us", "you don't know what it's like", "you've already judged us".

It seems no amount of tolerance is good enough for you people, you'll always keep pointing at the few intolerant people and whine 'see, you ALL hate us!', creating the impression that even if being a furry should not be considered one of your fetishes, attention whoring and faux tragedy sure as heck are. You seem to be LOVING the hate, and I believe that's because that hate is what keeps your community together, keeps you from inside quarrels, keeps you from having to look outside your shallow world. Until you're actually willing to do anything to bridge the gap, stop pretending you'd like things to change, and leave us alone as you want to be left alone. You're the closed-minded ones, and you're just blaming the consequences of that on everyone else. Get over yourself. You're not any more special than other people, and pretending to be special is exactly what prevents you from being accepted as equals.

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