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Is Rosetta stone an effective learning tool

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-13 2:56

So yeah, I'm thinking of learning an eastern Asian language and I'm really conflicted as whether or not to 'purchase' Rosetta Stone as I've heard equally conflicting reviews of it. I live in a remote small town in australia so I can't exactly find my nearest 'korea-town' and immerse myself in the culture as some people would recommend so really in limited to using online/text resources. Cheers.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-13 4:02

Don't do it.

If you REALLY want to try it out for yourself, download/torrent a copy first.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-13 12:27

I wouldn't recommend it.  I've never tried, but I hear at best it's a vocabulary-building tool.

Name: Polyglot 2012-08-13 17:44

I think you may have asked me this question before.

Since you mentioned finding your nearest Korea town.

Are you wanting to learn Korean?

Name your language and I'll provide you with learning resources in all formats.

Name: N 2012-08-13 18:49

Not at all. Waste of money completely.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-13 21:37

You can probably find it for free too.  My roommate had a bootleg copy of a ton of languages.  It could be worth it then.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-14 1:51

Yes the language I am looking to learn is Korean, I've already used wikibooks to get the hanguel pretty well down pat but the pronunciation is giving me hell and I'm looking to expand my vocabulary. And no I do not believe I've posted this before but thank you for your answers

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-14 6:26

Ok that's fine.

Download this torrent:

http://www.torrenthound.com/hash/5172c854ec7161c01e29b91b7e7f7a8f812ca433/torrent-info/Korean-Language-Learning-Pack-Updated-

The site is secure and the torrent legit.

I didn't post the TPB link since some people have trouble accessing the site.

It has everything from beginners to advanced, as well as grammar books, dictionaries and pretty much every book has it's own audio files.

You can't go wrong with this.

Good luck.

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-14 8:06

Thank you kindy, as soon as my usage gets reset I definately will download it. Thanks again for your help

Name: Anonymous 2012-08-25 6:23

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Name: Anonymous 2012-09-04 10:33

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-07 17:20

Can someone provide something like that korean pack but for japanese

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-10 8:35

>>12

I provided the Korean pack, and will now provide you with a Japnese pack.

http://www.torrenthound.com/hash/f140f9e82346955b1a52309dbd0a4e93d9a3830c/torrent-info/Japanese-Language-Learning-Pack

It is a very large pack.

That is all.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-16 19:23

hi, could you also post language packs for French and Spanish? Already downloaded the Korean pack
Been looking for a legitimate way of learning for free for ages!

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-17 18:16

Are any of the items in the Korean or Japanese pack the kind of copyrighted material that gets tracked? As in, programs? Or are they just books?

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-19 21:02

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Name: Anonymous 2012-09-23 16:20

>>14

Go to torrentz.eu and search for whatever language packs you want.

>>15


'copyrighted material that gets tracked?'

I don't think you know how the internet works.

Firstly, the packs consist of books and audio tracks; no programs.

Secondly, a program is not tracked, therefore if you install a cracked copy successfully it will work, if you fail to do so then it will ask for a serial number and refuse to launch outside of a trial version, if such a version exists.

The internet police do not smash through your windows and steal all of your technological devices.

Name: Anonymous 2012-09-25 10:37

I'm going to give you the definitive answer.

Rosetta Stone is a context-based learning tool which capitalizes on low exposure, high repetition methodology. It is intended to emulate the method by which the human LAD works. However, the average human requires 2 years of constant exposure to natural human communication before he can start basic works with borked grammar and pronunciation. When children older than this start to pick up a second language (i.e. young mexicans or chinese living in America) they actually assign ideas to symbols they have already created, basically lengthening the vocabulary and grammar chains already in their head. Many children, for this reason, have mixed grammar when growing up in a multilingual environment.

Consequently, Rosetta Stone is both a poor simulation of the environment of a multilingual (or even monolingual) LAD in effect. It is also a poor substitute for textbook learning, as there is no grammar explanation or drilling (and let's be real, even in English you had to have a textbook from first grade on or you would have never learned the past perfect form), no instructions on writing, no segmented learning. It will have you repeating "see Spot run" for two weeks, but it will never explain to you what kind of verbs see and run are or why Spot is supposed to be capitalized.

Now what RS is actually good for (but not great for) is exposing you directly to listening practice and utilizing a good rote algorithm for you to hear natural speaking at a pace that you would be able to slowly absorb it. You know what else can do this? Anki, except it doesn't shove you into 4 sentences for 2 or 3 weeks, it doesn't cost 200 dollars, and it doesn't take a gig of space. So just get fucking Anki, even after not studying Chinese for 2 years (and I had only taken one semester) the Mastering Chinese deck with its excellent reading-translation-listening segmentation allowed me to quickly learn how to talk about delicious watermelons. And yes, that method of learning is hard and slow, but that's how listening-based learning works.

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