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choosing between two different languages

Name: SLC 2010-06-23 0:57

I'm having trouble choosing a language to learn.  I've decided on either Russian or Swedish.  Here's why...

Russian: my friend is learning Russian (albeit at a slow pace).  It'd be kind of neat if we could talk to each other in a language other than our native English.

Swedish: it sounds really pretty when spoken, and if I were to learn it, it would be the first foreign language I will have become fluent in.


Those are my reasons, now here are my previous language-learning experiences.  I know a little bit of French from a 1-year (so far) French class I've had.  I plan on continuing the class next year.
I also have a rudimentary knowledge of Japanese.  I can understand the pronunciation and I know some basic phrases.  I can read hiragana and a few katakana, and I know one or two kanji.


Sorry for the long post, but I am trying to decide carefully so I won't regret my decision (or get bored and give up) later.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-23 2:45

Russian, people to practice with help, but you might end up reinforcing bad habits, so make sure you know your shit.
How do you plan to learn these?

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-23 6:32

OP, I higly doubt you'll learn either of them having just those reasons. You'll most likely give up with such attitude.
However, just in case you'll get serious in the future...
For English natives Russian is about twice more difficult to learn than Swedish. http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikibooks:Language_Learning_Difficulty_for_English_Speakers
So if you're in it for fun, go with Swedish. It's not that useful (10M speakers), but if you plan to use it, it may be important to you.
If you're after usefulness and don't fear playing on hard mode, go with Russian (250M speakers). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_language
You'll get Belarussian and Ukrainian (to some degree) as a bonus.
I personally prefer impossible difficulty, so I go with Japanese. Russian native, BTW :P

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-24 10:36

>>3
impossible difficulty
Japanese

This is a myth

Also, stay away from Russian people, OP. They're shit at teaching their own language.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-24 11:41

>This is a myth
Tell that to the Foreign Service Institute (FSI) of the US Department of State. Link's in >>3

>They're shit at teaching their own language.
Pretending that you know what you're talking about again?

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-25 11:22

Japanese being hard is a myth, it might even be easier than English. The only real difficulty is the writing system. I say difficulty, but it's just a time consuming task.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-29 13:13

>>6
This depends from linguistic background - it's far easier to a Mandarin speaker to learn English grammar (mostly isolant) than Japanese (flexional). However, to a Russian speaker, Japanese palatizated consonants (as in syoyu) are a piece of cake in front of English oRRRRRRRRRRcish eRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

For the writing system... well, learn in hiragana, move afterward to Han characters.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-30 13:51

I'd say go with Swedish. Did you know that becoming fluent in Swedish lets you moderately understand the extremely similar languages Norwegian and Danish? 3-in one package, shit's awesome.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-30 16:05

>>8
Statistically, Norwegians are best at understanding other Scandinavians, so if you're after that, it may be a better choice.

Although as it's a more important language, there are perhaps more options if you choose Swedish.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-30 19:04

I'm sorta working on Norse.  NOt too hard for us ugly americans.  I don't get the appeal of Ruski.  Unless you want to read communist propaganda, I don't know what yo0u'd do with it.

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-30 20:32

Who wouldn't want to read communist propaganda?
Shit is so cash!

Name: Anonymous 2010-06-30 22:54

If you like to read, learn Russian. Great shit comes out of Russia and doesn't get translated or takes years to get translated.

Name: Anonymous 2010-07-01 8:28

>>12
Not anymore. Modern Russian Literature consists mostly of overrated shit(think of twilight, but worse), plagiarism of overrated shit(think of H.Potter) and pure untainted insanity(there was a book, where Russkies fought space aliens with the power of prayers[orthodox prayers, not catholic])

Name: Anonymous 2010-07-01 10:29

>>13
This is also true for the entire contemporary literature.

If someone wants to read classical russian books written in Russian.. well, good luck with that. I doubt more than 5% of non-native english speakers here could read through the first pages of Ulysses.

Name: Anonymous 2010-07-01 17:27

Russian one of the most popular language over the world. I think it's a good choice.
Если тебе нужен собеседник, владеющий русским, можешь обращаться ко мне.

Name: Anonymous 2010-07-01 18:51

>>15
RUSSIA STRONG

Name: Anonymous 2010-07-03 2:19

>>16
Every language where "is"/"are"/"am" verbs required joke.

Name: Anonymous 2010-07-07 9:52

>>17

Du er dum, faggot.

Name: Anonymous 2010-07-07 11:38

Russian only if you're gonna have anything to do with CIS countries.

Name: Anonymous 2010-07-07 12:04

я с английским не очень..так понимаю образно..и немного говорю..а вот с писаниной трабла..учил немецкий...поэтому хотелось бы узнать топовые топики и темы...

Name: Anonymous 2010-07-07 15:20

Laerer du svenska.  Russisk er for dumhoder og tosker.

Name: Anonymous 2010-07-08 7:00

>>21
Er det norsk?

Name: Anonymous 2010-07-09 10:51

>>22

Ja, er norsk.  OEsker du en pris?

Name: Anonymous 2010-07-10 4:59

>>23
Er det dansk?

Name: Anonymous 2010-07-10 21:28

no I just suck at norse.  I don't know how to make a question.  Shoot me.  Or don't.

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