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Useful and useless languages

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-16 11:41

I hate it when people describe a language as either useful or useless. In reality, it's neither. Think about it: a language such as Mandarin Chinese can be as useless as a language like Swedish. It all comes down to what you do with your language skills. Are you going to do anything related to China and Chinese? Are you going to do anything related to Sweden and Swedish?

So, what you do determines the usefulness of any language, be it Arabic or Oromo. Of course, everything also depends on how you perceive the usefulness of your actions.

There's only one language in the world that is (or more, has become) undoubtedly useful for anyone: English. And that's only because it's used by so many people around the world to communicate with not only English speakers, but also native speakers of other completely unrelated languages. A German can easily communicate with an Indonesian by using English.

The point is, don't say that you should learn this language because it is "useful" and not learn that language because it is "useless." It's only useful if you use it, and useless if you don't.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-16 20:01

thank you, captain obvious, take this rock

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-16 23:44

saging for butthurt, just give in and learn mandarin already

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-17 6:25

Swedish is pretty much useless, and I'm thinking if it weren't a national language, it would completely die out in a few centuries.  I live in Sweden, and I've never met a Swede that didn't speak English.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-17 8:14

>>2
Sometimes you have to state the obvious for people to realize it.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-25 7:43

mexican and american no other languages needed

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-25 15:35

>>6
>>mexican

No such thing as mexican, faggot, they speak spanish in Mexico.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-27 16:51

>>7
AND AMERICAN?

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-28 6:53

>>8
Yeah, that too, can't believe I missed it.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-29 10:54

>>1

No.

There are two languages in the world that are (or more, have become) undoubtedly useful for anyone: French and English. And that's only because it's used by so many people around the world to communicate with not only French and English speakers, but also native speakers of other completely unrelated languages. A German can easily communicate with an Indonesian by using French or English.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-29 12:32

>>10
Thinking French is still. well, a Lingua Franca is silly. Maybe in Europe, but not in the rest of the English-learning world, i.e. the German in your scenario may very well speak French, but unless he has a specific reason to learn French the Indonesian will not.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-29 14:48

>>10
Bullshit. Spanish has even more speakers than French. And of course Chinese has more speakers than English.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-29 15:59

Dutch is a useless language

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-29 16:10

>>13
Nee jij

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-29 17:38

OP must be an American wasting his time learning Finnish or something...

Name: OP 2009-08-29 18:09

>>15
Actually I'm learning Nepalese

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-30 0:23

Korean, Dutch, Swedish, Finnish, Catalan, Thai

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-30 9:08

>>13
I am Dutch and I agree, but all languages are essentially useless and only serve to separate people further from eachother.

I vote Russian as the new unified language, then called Earthian.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-30 12:22

>>16
Why dont you just learn hindi?

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-30 13:42

>>19
...Because it's not Nepalese.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-30 21:35

>>18

You hate diversity! faggot!

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-31 8:55

>>18
Actually, different languages arise naturally from geographical and temporal separation. Even if we (for some reason) declared a language universal, it would mutate naturally over time, and differently in different zones. After enough centuries, the original language will be unintelligible by the current native speakers, and then you'll need linguists again if you want to read texts from the time.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-31 9:51

>>22
Retard, today we have mass media and the Internet. In other words, even if dialects arise (they sure will), the language won't become unintelligible.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-31 11:26

>>23
You're the retard.

First, even with mass media, any language can split if its speakers are segregated. On average, daily communication with friends, coworkers, family, etc. occupy a much larger percent of time than TV and the Internet. Not to mention that the average person is more likely to watch or listen to more local TV or radio, mostly the news.

Second, even if the language evolves consistently all over the world, it will still *evolve*. Which means that after enough time, it will be completely different from what it was originally. It's simply impossible to prevent it. You can't read something that was written 500 years ago with any modern language. That will never change.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-31 15:38

Your second point is reasonable, and I actually agree.

Now, your first point is moot (OH HAI MOOT!). But how many years must pass before we get to the point of having unintelligible languages which are rooted from a single one? 1000? 300? At that point we can "reset" everything and create a new universal language. And I don't mean Esperanto or Lojban shit: i mean a true lingua franca, just like English is a lingua franca today.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-31 15:59

>>25
And I don't mean Esperanto or Lojban shit: i mean a true lingua franca, just like English is a lingua franca today.
That's irrelevant. Most English speakers have it as a second language, and people don't teach second languages to their children, they teach them whatever the community speaks (assuming they're not immigrants or native English speakers, obviously).
First, not second, languages are the ones that get passed down.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-31 18:58

>>26
So, ESL. Have you ever heard of it?

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-31 20:29

>>27
Sorry, I misunderstood you. I read "lingua franca" as "universal language".

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-02 8:16

>>11
There are French speakers on 5 continents.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-02 8:18

>>12
The usefulness of a language is proportional to the number of its speakers only for retards.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-02 22:41

>>30
The usefulness of a language is proportional to the number of speakers one is interested in communicating with.
fix'd

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-03 5:48

>>29
French speakers
in Europe are faggots
in North America are faggots
in South America are niggers
in Africa are niggers and sand niggers
in Asia are nigger-chinks

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-04 15:18

The value of a language is proportional to the amount of money or pussy you'll make off of it.  Japanese would be useless if it weren't for their economy.  And cp.  lol

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-04 15:54

English is the only truly "useful" language. It's the only language one needs in life.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-04 18:05

>>35
What about deaf-mutes?

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-05 12:44

>>36
They could use a notebook with text-to-speech. And they can read lips.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-09 7:20

>>34
And what if I want to learn Russian so I can read Pushkin and all the other classic literature in its native tongue? There's no money or pussy to be gained, but I would still consider it a wise time-investment (over something like watching TV or chatting on MSN in my spare time).

>English is the only truly "useful" language. It's the only language one needs in life.

Yeah maybe if you live in an English-speaking country. But believe it or not, there are many people in this world who do not live in English speaking countries, and thus have no use for the language.

Name: Anonymous 2009-09-09 19:03

English and Spanish.

If you speak Spanish you can communicate with someone who speaks another Romantic language like Portuguese, Italian, and maybe French. I'm not saying you can communicate effectively, but if worse comes to worse and you absolutely need to talk to some Portuguese guy, many words will sound familiar.

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