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Name: Anonymous 2009-07-05 15:37

I want to learn Finnish.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-05 15:47

>>1
No you don't. You want to learn Japanese because it's the only language worth learning.

Name: !MILKRIBS4k 2009-07-05 16:26

>>2
If you are a weeaboo! Finnish is an awesome language! I would also love to learn Finnish! I have been lurking http://finnchan.fi/ trying to pick some of it up!

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-05 17:02

>>3
What's awesome about Finnish? It's spoken by what 4 million people in the world so why waste any resources on learning it. Also there is no great Finnish literature that would make learning Finnish worthwhile. Japanese on the other hand is spoken by over 120 million people and there is TONS of manga and games that do not get translated into English.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-05 17:53

FINNISH IS FOR FAGS
EESTI FTW

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-05 17:59

Finnish is related to Japanese so if you learn one you can easily learn the other.

Name: !MILKRIBS4k 2009-07-05 18:00

>>4
No great Finnish literature, what about The Kalevala! Why would anyone ever want to read Japanese cartoons and play RPG's if you are older than 12! Nice try DOCTOR FAIL but you fail once again in trolling me!

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-05 18:12

>>7
The impact of Japanese culture on the rest of the world is about ten thousand times that of Finnish culture.

In fact the only good thing to have ever come out of Finland was Ievan Polkka.

Name: !MILKRIBS4k 2009-07-05 18:36

>>8
The many faces of DOCTOR FAIL!

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-05 18:44

>>9
sorry bro nobody cares about your country, Japan is where it's at. crushed.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-05 19:05

>>10
weeaboo!

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-05 19:09

>>10
Japan is where it's at. crushed.

Name: !MILKRIBS4k 2009-07-05 19:37

>>10
I am not Finnish fool! I am Canadian! You are an weeaboo troll! back to /b/, plz

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-05 19:46

>>13
LOL Canada is even worse sorry bro. Japan is where it's at.

Name: !MILKRIBS4k 2009-07-05 20:01

>>14
Where do you live!

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-05 20:11

Guys, piss off and let the grown-ups talk about languages.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-05 20:30

>>15
Europe but I'm planning on moving to Japan after college.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-05 22:20

Kello on 5:20 ja minua ei nukuta!

Also, this: >>16

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-06 2:33

>>6
Related? Are you kidding? The only thing in common for both those languages is that they're agglutinative.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-06 7:14

Learning Finnish is no easy task, but if you've set your mind on it, you can do it. Just prepare to having your brains explode every now and then. I've been teaching Finnish 4 months now for my gf and she can already express herself well.

I guess a year of hard study would bring you to the level that you can have conversations with people without too much effort.

As your goal is probably to speak Finnish, since as >>4 said, there is close to none interesting Finnish literature out there, you should mostly focus on spoken Finnish. Learn the essential grammar through written Finnish though, since it's needed to understand the grammar of spoken Finnish.

Good luck.

http://www.uusikielemme.fi/grammar.html
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/Finnish.html
http://forum.wordreference.com/showpost.php?p=3925682&postcount=16
http://www.verbix.com/languages/finnish.shtml
http://www.uta.fi/%7Ekm56049/finnish/
http://www.ling.helsinki.fi/~fkarlsso/genkau2.html

Here are some websites I've bookmarked.
The last website is meant to be a mindfuck, but don't let it let you down.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-06 8:45

>>20
In addition:
Torrent of a Finnish courses (All healthy, there are may others which are not):
http://www.mininova.org/tor/2696370
http://www.mininova.org/tor/1077852
http://www.monova.org/details/1454677/TEACH%20YOURSELF%20FINNISH%09.html

More crap:
http://www.edu.fi/oppimateriaalit/suomeaolehyva/

Dictionary and verb tools:
http://www.romania-sanakirja.net/online/verbs/conjugate_verb.php
http://www.sanakirja.org
http://ilmainensanakirja.fi/

Lived in Finland for a time. The language is not difficult really, just very different to almost all other languages. That is what is off putting at first. Once you get a hang of it you will be fine.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-06 8:52

>>4
I can't help but agree with you here, apart from Kalevala, which is a fine work. However that is about all.
The most famous novel by a Finnish author (Seven Brothers) has to be the most dull, droning, slow paced and boring book I have ever read (in any language). The author even manages to make fighting a bear sound boring, a feat I never thought possible.
As for the rest of >>4 's comments, shut up and stop being a weeaboo faggot.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-06 9:40

>>4
Also there is no great Finnish literature that would make learning Finnish worthwhile.

>>21
there is close to none interesting Finnish literature out there

I'm sorry if there's no interesting Finnish literature out there for people who only learn a language to read manga and to play (most likely pretty ecchi) games, but dismissing the literature of a whole nation like that just shows how ignorant you both are. Enjoy your バトル・ロワイヤル, 時をかける少女 and shittily translated Haruki Murakami books.

>>22
Ironically enough the Kalevala is the only Finnish book that shouldn't be read in any other language than Finnish, and even then it's a pretty challenging read because it has a very rich vocabulary with many dialectal, archaic and archaic dialectal words (although you can surmise the rough meaning from the context). Kalevala is a perfect example of a book whose language  is untranslatable: in translation it loses all of its beauty. The story might be there, but the magic is gone.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-06 10:50

>>23
>rambling about kalevala
Dude, you're acting like those filthy Muslims when they defend Koran.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-06 11:42

Kalevala has been translated in English and a dozen other languages so you do not need to learn Finnish to read it.

>>23
Whatever, Sussman. You sit in Finland and enjoy your 10°F summers and listen to Loituma. I on the other hand will enjoy playing the latest visual novels and read the newest comiket doujinshi while fucking hot japanese girls for free.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-06 13:27

An abridged version of Kalevala is mandatory reading for high-school students in Turkey.

True story.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-06 14:20

>>23
I would argue that WF Kirby's translation to English is as fine as they come and of course Friberg's manages to keep the whimsy and metre of the original nicely. And yes I've read all the English translations and the Finnish.
However, at 50 000+ lines it is a bit much for your average comic book reader's attention span. But to their delight it has been turned into a rather nice graphic novel also.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-06 14:26

>>26
Who translated it? What year and any other information about it would be nice :)

Name: finnfag 2009-07-06 15:00

As a native Finn I can say with fairly good confidence that learning Finnish is probably not worth it unless
a) you are one of those rare people who like to learn a language just for the language itself (unlike these weeaboos for whom learning Japanese might actually have some use value), or
b) you plan to move here permanently (you can get by just fine with English even if you live here for several years, but knowing the language is required for citizenship, and it's certainly good to know the language for social reasons if you plan to live here the rest of your life)

As for Kalevala, I don't recall ever meeting anyone who actually has read the work completely. I mean I'm sure it's a fantastic work, but we don't have to read it for school or anything, so it's obviously not thought of as such an important thing by the authorities.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-06 15:10

See? Even Finnish people themselves say you should rather learn Japanese. Believe me now?

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-06 15:32

>>30
I'm Finnish and I say you should learn Mandarin Chinese instead. If overall usefulness is concerned, Japanese is as good as a dead language.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-06 15:39

>>31
Yeah, just stick with Japanese.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-06 15:58

>>31
So you're saying learn Latin?

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-06 16:09

>>32
>>33

lol @ shitty reading comprehension

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-06 16:14

>>34
日本語。

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-06 17:33

>>35
lol you can't even form a sentence in Japanese.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-06 18:15

>>36
日本語です。

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-06 18:20

>>37
lol you can't even form a long sentence in Japanese.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-06 18:43

>>8
the only good thing to have ever come out of Finland was Ievan Polkka.
Someone doesn't know Linux, Max Payne and Nokia.

Also, I've studied Finnish for some time (stopped because the course was shitty and I couldn't find enough good Finnish media for free on the net to make self-study feasible), and I have a good understanding of Japanese. Despite some superficial similarities, I'd say that knowing one doesn't help you at all learning the other one.

Name: Anonymous 2009-07-06 20:50

>>29
Hi I'm anon ... you just met one.
*holds out hand for shake*
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