Japanese Learning Software...

I'd like a Japanese Learning Software that doesn't suck...

I tried that Rosetta Stone one but I really don't like it, they don't explain anything.

I also tried Power Japanese, it was decent. I'd like something with a little more interactivity and differents games to help you learn. Something fun that teach you the basics because I'm a total beginner at this and the hardest part of learning a language is always the beginning (I learned English as my second language, I'm French Canadian).

I know that I'm probably asking the impossible and that a software like this may not exist, but I could do with 2-3 differents software + some sites that have games on them and little programs.

BTW, any good online Japanese Dictionary? And any awesome translation site? I use Eudict, it's pretty good because it tells you the different meaning of the word instead of just having a dumb translation, but I'm sure there's better sites out there.


Thanks in advance.

>>40
なんじゃ、それ？このスレッドのタイトルを知ってる？「Japanese Learning Software」って正しいね。韓国語とか中国語などの話って無いね。それでさっさと出て行きなさい。このスレは、

中国語禁止

ということです。

>>41

我不懂你但是我和傢伙聊天了 因此現在是中文啊！

>>42
アンタ達のために新しいスレッドを作った。

http://dis.4chan.org/read/lang/1230957246/1-40

感謝の表現を待っています。

>>41

and by the way, i've never really thought of this before, because it's never caught my interest. but japanese looks GOD awful.. stick to either 漢字 or the other feudal crap that's in use in japan.

>>36
啊啊，明白了。我听说韩国人不常写汉字，对不对？对不起，我的汉语很不好。

为什么这个网站 有很多小日本？ :(  他们都不客气。

>>44
Seriously. Written japanese is ugly as fuck. Even 简体字 look much better, in my opinion, even though there are many debate about simplified vs traditional.

>>45

是的， 韓國不使用漢字；除非名稱某人。
對呀，日本人是傻屄們啊

WTF is happening here?

>>30
yup

>>48
A Korean with an inferiority complex and a white learner of Mandarin Chinese discuss various things while I'm trying to tell them that this is a Japanese thread.

>>46
No. Hiragana may look strange, but katakana is the coolest writing system ever!

Vertical writing kicks ass as well:

http://abeshokai.jp/blog/bilstein/files/mens-ex-1+2.jpg

>>50
Katakana looks like extremely simplified Chinese characters. I don't really like it.

>>48

Chinese overruling faggy Japanophiles. :)

>>50

inferiority complex? you're the one who's learning another language simply to conform to modern day western culture (copying Asia), you're the one copying an American trend. You, have an issue, why not stay out of the loop? do your own thing.

plus; you can't claim one writing system is better than another(or looks cooler, when it in fact looks like crap ;P).

>>51
They're actually derived from Chinese characters, just like bopomofo. Hiragana on the other hand originates from cursive Chinese characters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katakana#History

>>53

haha, I learnt Chinese through 注音符號

The only language I like is Hawaiian. Its phonology is extremely simple (like Japanese with pure l's and without any voiced consonants and chsh-like sounds), and thus it looks surprisingly well being written in Latin alphabet.

>>52
While that is very likely for the faggot you're replying, it doesn't change the fact that I share his observation as a non-westerner who has nothing against Koreans that it is so fucking obvious that you're a butthurt loser with a severe inferiority complex. Seriously, every post you make in every thread here causes grotesque pollution in this board. I hope Kim Jong Il re-unites Korea so that you could be sent to a re-education camp.

>>56
Why would Kim send him a camp? He's uniting against the Japanese devils. Odds are KJI would strongly approve of his actions.

>>57
Shit, I mean "send him TO a camp" :3

>>56

well, that's a coincidence, because my goal in life is to unite korea... lmao

>>52
do your own thing

But Japanese is my thing! 日本大好きですから～ Sure, at first, in 2005 when I started studying Japanese I did it out of peer pressure, but since then I've grown to love the language itself.

Besides, isn't Mandarin Chinese the new "Japanese" now?? It's gotten more and more popular each year... I bet that in the 2010s the classrooms that are full of pimple faced teens will be the ones where Chinese classes take place.....

>>57
But is he uniting them under the banner of the glorious JUCHE ideology? Noo...

>>59
Enjoy your re-education.

>>60

i've never studied chinese in school. only hanja. i'm just interested how it changes between dialects etc. :)

>>61
lol@주체, they have the right idea, but like communism, it never works quite right. i'll find a way :)

>>62
No, unlike Communism, it can't work due to its fallacious nature, and reliance on peptalk instead of science - also, hereditary leadership? What the fuck?

If people didn't fuck up Marxism to apply it on the third world every day and night, there wouldn't be all the "it doesn't work" chatter.

Anyways, what was I saying... Korean Peninsula looks like a small penis protruding from east asia. Then again every peninsula does, maybe that's why they called them peninsulas.

>>60
Sort of. But even at my very typical university, the Japanese department is much larger than the Chinese. But you're right, there are a bunch of Indian economics major faggots in my class. I don't mind if you learn Japanese if you really like Japanese, but if you learn a language for business reasons you should probably shoot yourself.

>>63

hereditary- just like monarchy then :)

>>60
If there's one language justified as being #1 taught, isn't it Chinese? Longest history of a modern language, largest population of speakers,

This thread makes me want to start learning Chinese once again. Last time I abandoned it due to my weeaboo friend who told me that Japanese is much better.

>>67
Are you really weak willed enough that you let weeaboos convince you that Japanese is superior? You are weak. Or should I say, you were weak! Adopt Chinese as your master. Beg his forgiveness for your past transgressions Make no mistake, he is a cruel and swift teacher, but he is fair, and he will eradicate your weak past in brilliant fires, and replace it with a strong, glorious future! Do it faggot.

I used this program called Human Japanese, I never finished it though so all I know is hiragana.

Ok what about ebooks? I find them really usefull, I'm actually trying to learn it with "Genki" for the basics and using the internet to learn Kanji's, but when I'm done with Genki is there another book as useful but more advanced? (in b4 Genki II)

>>3
agree whole-heartedly about Anki. It's just plain awesome.

>>70
I reckon you should go through both Genkis and just consume material. If you really need to look grammar up go for Tae-Kim.
皆の日本語　might also do good for you.
I also would suppose that you give Remembering the Kanji a try, since it probably improve your ability to recognise and process kanji by leaps and bounds.