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(Re)Learning Japanese (reading only)

Name: INVISIBLE SKY MAGICIAN !lnkYxlAbaw 2007-03-17 8:29 ID:VrLd4FqS

Well I decided I'm going to (re)learn Japanese. However, I only want to be able to read and understand Japanese, I have no current need for writing or speaking Japanese (no doubt I'll still learn it on the way). Reason? Manga, TV and movie subtitles, and video games, mostly for reading. in before "WEEABOO", my automated response to that: "Fuck off."

Current proficiency:

Can read & write Hiragana 100%.
Can read & write Katakana 100%, and decent enough at translating it.
CANNOT read & write Kanji at all, outside of numbers.
Is aware of the difficulty of Japanese grammar, levels of politeness, particles etc... but does not know much about it.

Anyone have any decent Japanese-learning links or download resources (textbooks, audiobooks etc)?

I'm currently going through my old high school textbooks and a Genki Vol.1 e-book. I need a decent hardcopy Japanese dictionary though, know a good one?.

Thanks.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-17 10:18 ID:k798bHDN

First of all, you should become to be able to read the Kanji.
So you will be able to practice of the writing Kanji.

If you live in Japan, why don't you buy Japanese child's novel that have hiragana printed beside each kanji.

eigo(Englihs) ga umaku kakenakute gomennasai...

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-17 11:03 ID:f0xDdNYn

If you're serious about learning the kanji, you should definitely get James Heisig's *Learning the Kanji* books. It requires some dedication, but that's most likely the best way of building quick kanji proficiency.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-17 12:10 ID:RjouvYQC

You should get "Japanese for Weeaboos", I hear it's good.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-17 12:20 ID:Heaven

WEEABOO

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-17 15:31 ID:AZLLHOX7

>>Can read & write Hiragana 100%.
>>Can read & write Katakana 100%, and decent enough at translating it.

That's so basic of the basic, it's not worth mentioning at all. And you're a fag for mentioning it.

If I say my proficiency at english:
Reading letters A to Z: 100%.
Does that sound lame to you?

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-17 15:57 ID:0jZxJu+I

>>6
fuck you

Name: ( ´^ิ益^ิ`) 2007-03-17 16:39 ID:x783mzzT

>>7
( ´^ิ益^ิ`)OH GOD MY ORGANS

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-17 17:17 ID:AZLLHOX7

I LOL'D! another weeaboo who wont get far.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-17 17:50 ID:dhdXj3DQ

Well I decided I'm going to (re)learn English. However, I only want to be able to read and understand English, I have no current need for writing or speaking English (no doubt I'll still learn it on the way). Reason? Comics, TV and movie subtitles, and video games, mostly for reading. in before "AMERIKKKAN", my automated response to that: "Fuck off."

Current proficiency:

Can read & write upper-case letters of the alphabet 100%.
Can read & write lower-case letters of the alphabet 100%, and decent enough at translating it.
CANNOT read & write English words at all, outside of numbers.
Is aware of the difficulty of English grammar, levels of politeness, particles etc... but does not know much about it.

Anyone have any decent English-learning links or download resources (textbooks, audiobooks etc)?

I'm currently going through my old high school textbooks and a English for Dummies e-book. I need a decent hardcopy English dictionary though, know a good one?.

Thanks.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-17 18:56 ID:AZLLHOX7

Well I decided I'm going to (re)learn Windows programming. However, I only want to be able to read and write programs, I have no current need for compiling or debugging (no doubt I'll still learn it on the way). Reason? The next killer MMORPG, weather simulation systems and robotic A.I, and V.R. games, mostly for lulz. in before "One word, the forced indentation of code", my automated response to that: "Fuck off."

Current proficiency:

Can locate the Start Button 100%.
Can click on the Start Button with my left mouse button 100%, and decent enough at locating "Turn Off Computer...".
CANNOT use any programs at all, outside of Solitaire.
Is aware of the difficulty of saving, deleting, downloading etc... but does not know much about it.

Anyone have any decent Windows-programming-learning links or download resources (textbooks, audiobooks etc)?

I'm currently going through my old elementary school textbooks and a Windows programming for Dummies e-book. I need a decent hardcopy Windows architectural documentation though, know a good one?.

Thanks.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-17 19:52 ID:RjouvYQC

Well I decided I'm going to (re)learn cooking. However, I only want to be able to prepare and digest food, I have no current need for chewing and swallowing (no doubt I'll still learn it on the way). Reason? Mostly because I need nutrition to survive. in before "PUT THE FORK DOWN FATTY", my automated response to that: "Fuck off."

Current proficiency:

Can heat water to boiling point 100%.
Can operate simpler cutlery 100%, and decent enough with BBQ accessories.
CANNOT operate oven or stove or anything else necessary for cooking food.
Is aware of the difficulty of frying, simmering, setting the table etc... but does not know much about it.

Anyone have any decent Cooking-learning links or download resources (textbooks, audiobooks etc)?

I'm currently going through my old elementary school textbooks and a Cooking for Dummies e-book. I need a decent hardcopy Cooking manual though, know a good one?.

Thanks.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-17 20:26 ID:x783mzzT

Well I decided I'm going to (re)learn auto mechanics. However, I only want to be able to understand the components of my 1987 Ford Escort, I have no current need for being able to actually repair anything (no doubt I'll still learn it on the way). Reason? My car is a peice of shit and it breaks down all ofthe time, I want to modify it with plastic hubcaps/spoiler to add horsepower, and I'm a desperate balding old man who wants women, and women love guys who can fix cars. in before "PUSHRODS PUSHRODS PUSHRODS", my automated response to that: "Fuck off."

Current proficiency:

Can open the hood 100%.
Can remove the air filter 100%, and decent enough at replacing it.
CANNOT do anything else because the engine is greasy and scary, sort of like Mexicans.
Is aware of the difficulty of installing a turbocharger, modifying exhaust system, etc... but does not know much about it.

Anyone have any decent mechanic-learning links or download resources (textbooks, audiobooks etc)?

I'm currently going through my old high school textbooks and a 1985-1990 Ford Escort for Chilton e-repair manual. I need a decent hardcopy repair manual, know a good one?.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-17 23:24 ID:5z/st1RK

Well I decided I'm going to (re)learn air traffic control. However, I only want to be able to look at and talk to pilots, I have no current need for separating aircraft or ensuring their safety (no doubt I'll still learn it on the way). Reason? Airplanes are the shit and maybe some day I'll get to go up to one and actually touch it with my hand. in before "lol planes go BOOM", my automated response to that: "Fuck off."

Current proficiency:

Can look out the control tower windows 100%.
Can put on a radio headset 100%, and decent enough at pressing the PTT switch.
CANNOT control aircraft in the tower pattern at all, especially when only one is in my airspace.
Is aware of the difficulty of anticipated separation, special VFR, and issuing clearances... but does not know much about it.

Anyone have any decent air traffic control links or download resources (textbooks, audiobooks etc)?

I'm currently going through my old high school textbooks and a FAAO 7110.65 for Dummies book. I need a decent hardcopy pilot/controller glossary though, know a good one?.

Thanks.

Name: INVISIBLE SKY MAGICIAN !lnkYxlAbaw 2007-03-18 5:55 ID:HmeI2mWW

Well this got fagged up pretty quickly.

bump.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-18 6:06 ID:EeqqXZCh

Because the thread was faggy to start with. A weeaboo tripfag... And you can't even understand, what the hell was wrong with your original post.

Name: INVISIBLE SKY MAGICIAN !lnkYxlAbaw 2007-03-18 6:52 ID:HmeI2mWW

I wish to enjoy certain aspects of Japan's entertainment, so I wish to learn the language.

Why don't you tell me what's wrong?

Also, you and most people in this thread should learn the definition of weeaboo which you obviously don't understand. Actually, that's not even a fucking word, just some made up shit by the fags at /b/. Look up "Wapanese" instead and relay the definition to me.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-18 8:05 ID:EMOMjmXF

Legendary thread, I save it for the future generations.

Name: ee™ 2007-03-18 8:11 ID:EJQqiTFH

>>1
Oshit, you can write/read in japanese? That's pretty neat..

Name: Dave 2007-03-18 8:26 ID:2CVC4JhV

First, response to the OP:

Buy the Genki books off Amazon. If you really want to study, invest some cash. Genki is your best bet. If you can get your hands on it, Minna no nihongo is very good as well.

I applaud your efforts at beginning to study Japanese. If you truly are studying diligently, it means you aren't a weeaboo (and if you are, I wish you would die with your 300 word Japanese vocabulary.)
Second, for the /b/tards: (From Urbandictionary)

    

“Wapanese” are decidedly caucasian individuals who, by means of thoroughly warped postmodern acculturation processes, have come to the decision that it is in their best interest to act as if they were denizens of the nation of Japan. The term “wapanese” can be accurately though of as an analog to wigger. A whitey can be classified as a “Wapanese” if they are in possession of two or more of the following defining traits:


1. Has an unhealthy obsession with shallow, saccharine and intellectually insulting animation shows (also refered to as anime by the nerd elite) originally tailored for young Japanese children

2. Operates under the erroneous belief that every aspect of American culture is vastly inferior to that of Japan’s – even though 99.9% of Wapanese have never had firsthand experience of any sort with their preferred culture (in other words, they’ve never set so much as one foot upon the island(s) of Japan)

3. Halfheartedly studies Japanese language and/or is a part-time practitioner of martial arts

4. Has a sword (samurai swords only, of course) collection

5. Is a Virgin
6. May be afflicted with a terminal case of yellow fever; however, they constantly fail in their quest for Japanese pootytang

7. Extreme cases may traipse around whilst wearing a “costume” that makes them resemble their favorite anime characters (this practice is reffered to as cosplay; cross-dressing and raging homosexuality is not an uncommon component of cosplay.


Interestingly, Wapanese are generally thought of as “failures” and rejects within their own culture. Social scientists such as myself speculate that it was their failure to gain acceptance within their own culture than has lead many a white geek to seek out Japan’s culture as a surrogate; however, they’d be shattered to know that the insular and somewhat racist Japanese society would be even less accepting of them than the people of their true and native culture.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-18 10:12 ID:0G6l0AfE

>>20

That is the most tragic aspect of weeaboos, that if they ever actually got to Japan they would be publicly spit upon.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-18 10:51 ID:lY9bIjjB

>>20

>>3. Halfheartedly studies Japanese language and/or is a part-time practitioner of martial arts

Well, I do everything pretty much Halfheartedly really.

>>5. Is a Virgin

Cause I am fat and can't talk to people properly.

>>6. May be afflicted with a terminal case of yellow fever; however, they constantly fail in their quest for Japanese pootytang

But, I, er...god damnit.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-18 11:08 ID:lY9bIjjB

>>22
Aw hell, forgot quoting doesn't quite work the same on text boards. Meh

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-18 11:45 ID:Q5WAnYf2

FUCKING LEGENDARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-18 19:01 ID:J2+h+ADz

>>17
STFU you nigger. Truth is you don't know jack shit. You are what we call weeaboo, now stfu and go become an hero. "BUT URBAN DICTIONARY SAYS..." NO! GTFO.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-18 22:24 ID:skVufs3R

Fucking sit down, at your your computer, go to amazon, buy this book < http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/4789004546/103-5564390-2055865 >, also buy a electronic dictionary with a good kanji dictionary included, learn how radicals of kanji work, spend the next fucking 10 years learning everything, YOU CANNOT LEARN JAPANESE WITHOUT LIVING IN JAPAN, sure you can "get by" but you are never going to come close to fluency in reading, writing, or speaking.  unless you are just waisting your time give up now, and i'm not putting you down, i'm serious, i studied japanese for 4 years at college and have been living in japan for the last year, and i'm no where close to being able to carry on anything more than normal everyday conversation.  infact, just buy a gun and be a hero

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-18 23:28 ID:KOwrJn3i

I learned Japanese by reading www.guidetojapanese.org, downloading manga (Aria, Mahoraba, Suzuka, mostly ones with furigana) to use as reading material, listening to music, watching TV and anime, and finding Japanese people on the internet who want to chat via MSN messenger or send emails back and forth.  Now, after a few years of studying that way, I have been living in Japan for about 6 months.  I have a girlfriend here, and while I can understand most anything she says, it's still very hard for me to fabricate my own sentences from scratch.  I feel that I sound like a little kid when I speak.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-19 0:14 ID:jmH+SJUd

>>26
IT IS BECOME "AN HERO" YOU FUCKFAG

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-19 0:21 ID:HTitiftj

>>27
"I have a girlfriend here"

Maybe in a parallel universe where weeaboos rule the earth.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-19 0:25 ID:oDc7mKwq

>>28
No, it's "A HERO"

MS-Word spell check FTW

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-19 0:26 ID:jCqENaKK

>>29
APPARENTLY you have never been to japan, if you are white and not ungodly overweight then you can get a japanese girl with no problem, try learning something before you act like you know shit asshat

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-19 4:16 ID:GEyUo4Ey

>>31
Not everyone is white, not overweight, and want to hook up with Japanese girls. So what are you trying to say? GTFO you king of weeaboos!!!

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-19 5:22 ID:fLO54n9b

This thread is full of human failures.I will back up this thread often so the involved human race in the next centuries will witness the retardness of their ancestors. Please continue to post shit like this, it's entertaining and will be a great step for science evolution.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-19 5:58 ID:d1EF4xtA

Excuse me...
If I get wrong >>2 sentenses, please revise my sentenses...

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-19 7:03 ID:Heaven

>>26
>>27
If you're living in Japan you should be able to get good at Japanese pretty fast I think.  You're probably just not using the language enough, or you're using English too much.  Do you hang out with all English speakers or something?  I've been living here for about 2 years now and I don't have any English speaking friends, the only time I really use English is on 4chan (one side effect of this is that I have a hard time speaking politly in English anymore and tend to say words like faggotry and fail a lot).  But seriously.  Hang out with people, make friends, use 2ch, play eroge, hell, just read books and shit.  In less than a year I stopped feeling like I'm having trouble with stuff and started just talking as normally as possible and sounding kinda silly but in time it started feeling a lot more normal and shit, my friends sometimes give me shit for having a slight accent and sometimes I talk really fast (I talk fast in English too and it kinda carried over I guess) and then get all dyslexic and shit, but otherwise I never really feel like my language skills are inadequate.  I just feel like the one guy foreign kid in your group of friends you probably had back in highscool who has an accent and occasionally says shit that makes people go "huh?" but for the most part sounds normal.  I mean, think about immigrant kids you'd meet in highschool back in the US, they'd learn English to a pretty fluent point in a few months because it was the only language they ever used.  Learning Japanese (or in my theory any foreign language) is only a matter of learning the target language up to a certain point, after that it's a matter of UNlearning English or whatever other mother language you had.  I realized I was getting fluent in Japanese the first time I went back to the US to visit after living here about a year and found myself formulating a lot of stuff in Japanese grammer first and then stumbling on it in English, like, I'd say, "More than... er, well, more over than that, er, I mean, like, isn't it kinda late?" and shit when I was just trying to be like "つーかもう遅くね?" or something like that.  Being really fluent in 2 languages at the same time, now that'd be cool.  Right now I'm in a stupid middle ground where when I really sit down to write something and try to make it sound good, I find myself having trouble in both languages.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-19 9:25 ID:Gf6Rh8Pt

>>30
murk loar.  it's "an hero"

Name: 27 2007-03-19 9:30 ID:Gf6Rh8Pt

>>35
I'm not using the language enough because I live on a military base and speak English all the time.  If I had even more Japanese friends, that would problably help.
 I hang out with my girlfriend during the weekends, but she does most of the talking.  I feel that I've hit a roadblock and can't really progress any further, but I'm sure as hell trying.

I've only been here for about 6 months, so I still have to give it some time before I'm truly fluent.

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-19 18:44 ID:qz6obE6Y

>>35
you probably only think you are good at japanese, i'm guessing you are fagging it up more than you think, that is not to say that you are progressing, but living in japan for 2 years will not get you fluency, japanese is a very fucking hard language to master, sure you may get to the point where you can understand everything said, but trying to reply with an adequate responce at the same level is a different matter, stop trying to fool yourself
>>37 I've only been here for about 6 months, so I still have to give it some time before I'm truly fluent.
go fucking die for this comment

Name: 37 2007-03-19 23:04 ID:Gf6Rh8Pt

>>38
go fucking die for this comment

???

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-20 4:08 ID:BNmOW7kJ

>>39
i think that he is trying to point out that  >>37 is not even close to being fluent after 6 months, therefore it was stupid to say that he has to give it some time

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