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BT / NTL /b/ Block - Stuff we know.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-15 18:44

What follows has been posted in various other threads and has been repeated in IRC - but I thought it was probably an OK idea to post it all together in one place if only so I could point them to it - anyway:

As far as we have been able to work out someone has informed and organisation in the UK called the Internet Watch Foundation http://www.iwf.org.uk/ of our little place on the net and they have deemed it to be unacceptable due to either race hate OR childporn... probably both. They have place ONE SPECIFIC URL on a block list.

Seemingly NTL and BT subscribe to this block list to different degrees (although oddly some people are still getting through from at least NTL not sure about BT). The URL they are blocking is the main /b/ http://img.4chan.org/b/imgboard.html one which is why you are seeing a 404/403 on that one, but are still capable of seeing links within /b/.

There are quite a few ways to get around this, the two that I employ when Im on my work BT line is by using the IP address of the of the /b/ server, so then the URL would be: http://66.207.165.178/b/imgboard.html - this also works for NTL users. NTL users can also just add a '?' mark to the end of the normal URL to get around it thus: http://img.4chan.org/b/imgboard.html?
You can also use proxies and tunnelling an other crap, such as http//securebar.secure/...
or installing your own copy of squid maybe.

BT users only are currently finding them selves banned completely from the img.4chan servers, I have no idea what that is about as I dont think anyones said.

Are BT/NTL logging failed connects to the boards? No idea. How long is this gonna last? No idea. Is there anyway to ge the block lifted? Having read the IWFs complaints procedure... only if you want the police at your door if its still found to be CPy.

I think thats it, be brave /b/tards. You can get through this.

D.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-15 19:07

As I mentioned in an earlier post - don't bother using secure-tunnel, as some CP poster has got that one banned until the 28th of June, so the rest of us can't use it (thanks pedo).
As for the reason for the ban, I did some digging and basically it's boiled down to CP, as racism is only bannable for a UK-based site.
It seems that different parts of the country have different levels of ban, or even none at all - as BT/NTL don't seem to have an organised strategy for blocking at the moment.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-15 22:31

i was never aware i lived in such a police state before ;/

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-15 22:54

>>3
I wonder how it's possible not to notice? Ever been watching news? UK has been hellhole police state for years and it has been just getting worse each year. Not limited to internet.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-15 23:14

>>4
i dont watch tv, all the news i read i get from links sent by friends/on message boards

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-16 8:09

Change your http proxy to webcache.bt.net:8080

This webcache doesn't use the same settings as the default webcaches, it is not banned from img and /b/ is not blocked. Also, it makes rapidshare slightly more usable; it still thinks you're about a thousand different people, but it does allow you to download, which the default proxies do not.

Good day my fellows.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-16 10:51

>>6
My work based thanks to you.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-16 14:05

>>6
marry me

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-16 14:54

Is this related to how BT is banned from all of img?

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-16 15:02

I'm pretty certain moot got pissed with being declared a source of cp, and banned those ISPs as a means to have as many people as possible bitch until the block on /b/ was revoked.

So, do your part, don't just use this proxy; bitch at your ISP as well.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-16 15:24

>>10
Word from people who have called their ISPs regarding the blocks (not the 4chan banning, thats something different and only to do with BT users) have been told its nothing to do with them and is to do with UK Trading Standards - basically the Internet Watch Foundation...

The other main reason that people may not wanna push it too much is because you're basically arguing your right to view CP (in the ISPs eyes) - the fact that its a 'random' image board is lost.

The last thing I read about the BT 4chan ban was that it may be a  cache somewhere thats redirecting to the ban page... makes vague sense - no idea whose problem it is though. Use the fix >>6 mentioned an its all fine.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-16 17:51

>>11
WORD TO YOUR MOTHER!!

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-16 19:23

so do we all continue using the cache until we get partyvanned?

Name: 2006-06-16 21:50 (capped)

>>10

We didn't do anything. It's all them.

From what I gather, NTL and UKOnline send a 404 error, and BT redirects to the banned page (which now has a little warning on it).

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-16 21:59

>>14
Mkay thanks Vac

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-16 22:16

freedom of speech is dead.
would using that TOR shit that all the pedos were using allow me to connect to 4chan?
i'm kinda bored of not being able to post on the banned boards.
I'm using BT, but thanks to this, i'm switching ISP as soon as i can.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-16 22:27

>>14

Thanks for the info - so BT are being even shittier than we thought, and have now blocked /b/, /r/, /s/ and /t/.  Wow.

Name: Reddy 2006-06-17 6:24

I'm with BT and get the banned message when i try and get on /s/, when i tried to get on /b/ it just said forbidden.

I guess it must be BT faggetry, or a mod who snapped or somethnig with rando-bans.

So 4chan screwing us brits from the other side to?.

Jesus christ, cant believe some over-sensitive peice of horse shit is so whingey they can ruin it for tons of folk who dont even know them and want nothing to do with them.

Surely thats the greatest curse on modern PC thuggery society, even the most distant un-known stranger with sensitivity issue's can fuck things up for tons of complete strangers who dont know them and have no interest in them.

Fuck-beans.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-17 12:01

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-18 11:37

>>6
We have a winner

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-18 15:29

On the 4chan banned page it says:

"If your ISP is BT Internet, it appears that they are categorically redirecting you to this page. For the time being we are unable to do anything about this. You may want to contact them for further questions."

I call bullshit. Connecting to img.4chan.org and issuing a request for /b/ returns exactly the same response as if we are really banned - same server version + extensions, same redirect code .. everything!

I doubt BT would go to such lengths to redirect to a ban page in EXACTLY THE SAME WAY, so it seems to me that this is something the mods are doing just to piss us off.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-18 16:10

>>21

No, BT doesn't send ETag and the headers are in a different order.
I think 4chan sends a different Cache-control too.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-18 16:48

>>22

You're doing it wrong - you need to compare the ban redirect

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-18 18:13

>>6
You sir, recieve great thanks. I've been suffering from a lack of /b/ under BT's oppression, and you have solved my problems. And Rapidshare now works for me too!

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-18 21:12

If we have the UK thinking that 4chan is a haven for CP, should we be worried in the USA?    Call me paranoid, but I don't wanna get caught in a CP dragnet.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-18 21:26

>>25

GOT CP?

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-18 21:36

NO, I dont have any freaking CP, nor do I want any CP.   But I am worried that frequenting 4chan could lead to Bad Things happening.

Am I paranoid?

ps, I live in the USA.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-19 0:17

>>27
you're paranoid for being paranoid without having cp. if you had cp you would be justifiably paranoid. so yes.
i'm sorry you live in the usa.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-19 0:18

Too many people browse /b/ for the users to be raided or whatever.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-19 1:18

Hey, don't wanna sound like a total noob or anything, but how do I quote things?

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-19 1:26

>>30
>>Hey, don't wanna sound like a total noob or anything, but how do I quote things?

lolz n00b

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-19 1:27

>>31
lol I failed

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-19 1:37

Yeah. You did. In light of your failure, you should TEACH ME THE WAYS OF QUOTING!

Name: Shirox 2006-06-19 4:26 (sage)

I'm not suprised something like this happened to /b/, with all the damn reposters causing a havok.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-19 11:17

u all failed

lol

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-19 15:55

FUCK YOU, 4CHAN, FOR BANNING US FROM IMG.4CHAN.ORG AND BLAMING IT ON BT

**FUCK YOU**

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-19 17:14

>>25
The IWF say that they find out where TEH EVIL CP SITE is hosted then send email to appropriate anti-CP organisations in that country. Given that /b/ has not shut down, whoever those organisations were obviously shook their heads sadly at IWF's complete failure to understand what a moderated anonymous imageboard is then ignored them.
So no, I wouldn't worry.

As a British Anonymous, I grow more depressed for the shitty state of my country every day. Our government is in many ways worse than the Bush administration when it comes to removing our basic civil liberties every chance it gets. The IWF is supposedly an independent "industry body" but in reality has close ties to the state through police partnership and the government's control and monitoring of ISPs (data retention article etc.) Today they block /b/, tommorow they could block legitimate political dissidents and whistleblowers because they're "terrorists" and "threats to national security". Or whatever the hell else they feel like.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-19 17:54

>>6
How do you change your webcache?

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-20 0:02

>>38
for firefox:
Tools>Options>General>connection settings>Manual proxy settings>http proxy

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-20 14:22

>>12

Is that you Doctor Popular?

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