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Anonymous' Theory of Japanese RPG Fandom

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-21 14:35

Copypasted from /v/.  I hope this provokes some discussion.

Someone on /v/ wanted to know why Japan "busts a nut" over both the ultrasimple, ultratraditional Dragon Quest series and the highly technical SaGa and Megami Tensei series.  The appeal of both of these styles of RPG evidently eludes him completely.

My answer is that the Japanese game market is at least as big and diverse as the Western market, and these RPG subgenres appeal to different people. Dragon Quest is the everyman's RPG. SaGa and Megami Tensei are for "hardcore RPGers".  Lunar, Xeno*, and other anime-FMV-heavy, fanservice-heavy, gameplay-light RPGs are for otaku (I mean that in a nonjudgemental way, so don't flame me)

In the West, the "everyman" does not play RPGs, and the "hardcore RPGer" plays Western-made PC RPGs, not Japanese RPGs. Hence the core audience of Japanese RPGs in the West consists of... otaku.

This explains the relative popularity of different Japanese RPGs in the West--why games like Xenosaga are hailed as the second coming of Christ, and why the pundits of JRPG fandom (who are otaku who *think* they are "hardcore RPGers" because they don't know any other kind of JRPG player) genuinely puzzle over how "boring RPGs with no plot and unappealing characters" (read: no anime-like melodrama and no fanservice) are so successful in Japan.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-21 15:18

Dragon Quest is decent, as you said, its THE straight up everybody RPG of quality.
You're right about that otaku thing, I'd always wondered why Lunar was liked so much, I'm not big on anime or turn based fighting, I pretty much live for gameplay.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-21 15:46

I approve of this theory.

Name: Anonymous 2006-04-21 18:32

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Name: Anonymous 2006-04-21 21:09

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Name: Anonymous 2006-04-23 0:40

There was an interesting book I read a year ago http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/0744004241.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

It had asked some of the same questions about RPGs and one of the Japanese replys about Dragon Quest was something like, "I love it because I can always become strong enough to beat the enemies and save the world" etc. I think he was referring to his ability to play the game and level up at his own pace. While this describes the most simple and traditional idea behind RPGs, you don't have to look any further for an explanation. While looking back at a game like Dragon Quest 1 seems incredibly boring, for a lot of people, that's all they wanted in a game - the ability to build up a character by fighting monsters. Nowadays there is so much more to games and RPGs in particular: complex battle systems, multitudes of characters, real-time skill or reflex challenges, and so on.. but the "traditional" appeal of the level treadmill isn't always a pitfall to games - this is what the "everyman" fans have come to expect and enjoy.

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