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Vista vs. Linux - Which is REALLY better?

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-19 2:48 ID:+QJbpQUL

I'm sick of this "just get more ram!" bullshit. My 286 did almost as much functionality-wise as my current multi-ghz machine. Yeah, really. Sure, there was no multi-tasking, but I did the mostly the same things as I do today.
Hello, fuckers, just because you can eat ram doesn't mean you should. It costs money and also reduces the number of programs you can run.
I can see it now: in another ten years programs will have minimum footprint of 1GB, but they'll just do more of the same.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-19 5:07 ID:WNZWSwJw

please please please please don't go to www.linux.com

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-20 23:36 ID:s5FCG+CU

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-21 3:33 ID:WPHaUJPl

But they'll do it with really neat graphics!

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-21 7:40 ID:eKr1MJ7r

In soviet russia, neat graphics will do you!

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-24 4:44 ID:zFGoNV3M

In you, soviet russia will do neat graphics.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-24 4:45 ID:zFGoNV3M

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-24 9:42 ID:xXzF/qRN

>>7
404 - Not Found

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-24 11:19 ID:ueGlff6n

>>8
you're a failure

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-24 21:38 ID:y0DvhMNd

>>9
OP here please stop ruining my thread with your failurefaggotry. It's getting a bit off topic guys.

Name: el flavio 2007-09-24 22:15 ID:RdMISEyB

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-25 9:25 ID:Heaven

>>10
Fuck you.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-25 21:08 ID:L/fw5X5z

>>12
Hi asshole

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-26 11:03 ID:Heaven

>>13
O hi.

Name: fazed 2007-09-26 16:18 ID:2wiEQseX

Linux is faster but you
can get applications such as XGL
and beryl which adds more functionallity
to the Desktop Environment than vista's areo
and eats up less ram, but ubuntu's minimum
requirements is 256 MB of ram, would your old
computer be good enough to keep up with
development. stop viewing this page if the answer
is yes because your old computer couldn't do this
running procedural languages (unless you would
like to browse this site in lynx/links)

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-26 16:59 ID:Heaven

>>15
Yeah. Linux is all about XGL and Beryl. What the fuck, get the fuck off this board, you moronic HTML tag using tripfag.

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Name: fazed 2007-09-26 18:15 ID:2wiEQseX

missing out post 17,
im gonna skip to post 16.
ok so you love vista, did you have an
affair with it whilst still with your
old DOS computer or something?
well dude what im trying to say
is that XGL and beryl make linux better, the
post title is linux vs. windows, if you hadden't
noticed I mentioned the fact that using these
products on linux the system would still run
faster than windows. ah well at least you
know what HTML is I guess..

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-27 6:15 ID:zNlA/7Kz

>>18
Hey, I think you would be welcome in /prog/, we love namefags there -- and it is clear you are one of us EXPERT PROGRAMMERs.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-27 6:57 ID:R+fh4OLZ

>>18
hi namefag
now GTFO

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-27 12:28 ID:B8YFLcmz

>>18
Hahaha, oh wow. It is now clear to me that you are not only a namefag and incapable of proper capitalization but you are also underaged.

I don't love Vista, I don't even use Windows these days. But that doesn't stop me from disagreeing with and pointing out the idiocy in your posts. Basically all you said is "Linux is faster and it has Beryl". Just... wow.

Name: Grrrrrr 2007-09-27 17:00 ID:+TdaXJFk

God 4chan is full of fucks now....

OI TWATS THAT HAVE SEEN "4chan" NewFags On YouTube

GTFO

YOU GUYS ARE FUCKING KILLING THIS PLACE

....AGAIN...

FUCK YOU

Name: Grrrrrr 2007-09-27 17:01 ID:+TdaXJFk

God 4chan is full of fucks now....

OI TWATS THAT HAVE SEEN "4chan" NewFags On YouTube

GTFO

YOU GUYS ARE FUCKING KILLING THIS PLACE

....AGAIN...

FUCK YOU

Name: Grrrrrr 2007-09-27 17:03 ID:8Q/1CK57

God 4chan is full of fucks now....

OI TWATS THAT HAVE SEEN "4chan" NewFags On YouTube

GTFO

YOU GUYS ARE FUCKING KILLING THIS PLACE

....AGAIN...

FUCK YOU

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-27 17:17 ID:nI0Q6Qkp

>>20
>>23
>>24
you guys are fuckin dicks man

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-27 23:26 ID:Heaven

linux
sage this shit

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-27 23:35 ID:L7M2jt3F

>>25
so anon, how many dicks you got eh boy?

Name: Santa 2007-09-29 4:31 ID:0JUb3fCX

>>27
13, and my name is actually Santa

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-01 2:37 ID:2/7GBg14

>>11
This website is made of fail.  Sorry.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-01 4:48 ID:hP+VsmJW

>>29
NO U

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 0:40

OP wrote Vista first so I bet the answers Vista!

Name: ShadowSystems !ozOtJW9BFA 2007-10-05 1:41

In my honest opinion, Linux, and here's why.

I've been a loyal MS Windows user since the days of IBM XT's were barely able to run Windows 3.1...
I've used every version of Windows since then, including the abomination that is MS Windows Millennium Edition.
I was running Windows XP up until about a month ago.

I am the "go-to guy" for my family, friends, relatives, neighbors, friends-of-friends, coworkers, etc.
I know how to repair Windows, clean it, keep it clean, & generally all the things you need to do/know in order to make a Windows computer function at it's potential.

I have purchased *every* copy of Windows I have ever used, and refused to deal with anyone's system unless/until they had a legit copy on theirs, too.
(Because it's not worth the jail time & criminal record as far as I am concerned.)

I decided to give VISTA a try, and purchase a copy of Vista Ultimate.
As I always do, I simply remove the primary hard drive from my system, plug in a test hard drive, and install Vista to it.
Thus there's no risk of my primary HD becoming corrupted (it's not attached, it's not even in the case), and I get to find out if it works on the hardware I use every day.
(Otherwise I'd have a duplicate box with a blank HD to install it to, but I don't have that kind of spare cash.)

So in all my tests of Vista, it tells me that my system is "Barely Adequate" for the job.
It's a P4 3GHz system with 2Gigs of RAM, an ATI X600 Pro (512Megs VRAM, PCIe) video card, Intel Gb LAN, and 80Gb SATA HD.
If that's "barely adeqquate", then there is no way in heck it'll be able to cope with all the things I have to run on a daily basis.
Antivirus, Firewall, Spybot S&D, Firefox, Thunderbird, WinAmp, and Explorer are effectively "always on" because I bounce between them too frequently to want to launch/close them that often.

Sure enough, I install Vista and my system slows to a crawl.
I can watch it refresh window boxes.
I can sit & tap my fingers waiting for it to launch my common applications, listening to the drive thrash as it tries to load.
Constantly bugged by the UAC panel wanting me to authorize everything from twitching the mouse to editing the Registry.
(Ok, that's a lie, but it FELT like it was popping up every ten seconds to demand I authorize something or other.)
I know you can turn the UAC off, but that defeats a security layer of the OS, and that's almost NEVER a good thing to do.
I turn off all the eye candy, tweak the system so it runs as fast as possible, and generally do everything I can to make it do what I need in a reasonable amount of time.
In the end, it just wasn't possible.

Vista is so bloated, such a resource hog, that my system felt like I was back on an old 486DX2/100 running Windows 3.11...

So, fast forward to two weeks ago.
Exact same system, now running Ubuntu 7.04.
I can't believe how much faster this thing runs, even compared to my Windows XP!
Same hardware, but when I launch Firefox, it appears.
Not two minutes later, *NOW*.
Launch Thunderbird, and it's *BAM* there.
Launch Gnome Commander (a Norton Commander clone) and it's there, ready & waiting for me.
I click a button to have it do something, and 9 times out of 10,  it's open, ready, & waiting for my input before I can move the mouse to where the app will open to.

Watching FLV files from YouTube?
It auto downloads the files to my temp directory, and they launch as soon as it's done getting the file.
No hesitation, just "...97%...98%...99%...100 Perc-" window opens, file begins playing.

Opening twenty tabs in Firefox because I'm surfing for current events?
Not a peep, not a hitch, no slow down what-so-ever.

I currently have my media player, Thunderbird, Gnome Commander, Firefox, a firewall, and a document open in Open Office, and the Pricess Manager says I'm using *FOUR* percent of my CPU and *36%* of my RAM.

Windows Vista vs Ubuntu?
Ubuntu FTW.
=) 


So when MS pulled their latest "stealth update" BS & then told me my copy of XP wasn't legal, that was it.
The last straw, the one that broke the camel's back, the icing on the cake, the final kick to the crotch.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 3:30

>>32
ShadowSystems!ozOtJW9BFA

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 5:58

linux is great if you don't play games

/thread

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 6:01

>>32
try telling that to the virgin gaming nerds.

My 18 yo flatmates hate me for saying vistas shit

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 8:38

linux is great if you don't depend on proprietary resources
 
fixed

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 19:25

>>36
linux is great, but it is not designed for fags

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 20:50

Ubuntu is not the best Linux distro. Oh shit, did I just break this entire board?

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 21:10

>>11
That site is a big reason not to get Linux.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-06 3:10

I love Windows, but then, I'm an IT support analyst so I find it dead simple to maintain. If my system looked like some of the client machines I've seen literally soaked in spyware, my outlook wouldn't be so rosy - the stuff never takes to my system though - hell, I don't even have close calls anymore... Also, if you pirate, the server version of any Windows makes a better desktop than the desktop ver - you'll just find a lot of pigheaded programs do an OS check and refuse to run. They can be tricked with wildly varying efficacy.

I've tried many Linux distros over many years, and essentially... hated them. Ubuntu has the most promise I found, but there was so little I could do in it that I was accustomed to, and it was so damn hard to fix when little things would happen like - it'd just forget it had a network card and never configure properly again. Very good initial hardware detection though. I swear it seems more closely related to BeOS than Linux!

Posting this from a Macbook I'm playing with for work so I can learn and support them... It's not bad at all and I don't feel I need to install WinXP just as a backup to "do real work" on it. Then again I'm not really sold that it's superior either. The OS has a bad habit of ignoring input and giving no feedback, then erupting in a flood of backed-up commands. It also has a bunch of things that simply can't be configured and work WRONG, but that's in another thread...

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