I watched a movie on it recently and it revived my interest in something I've always been curious about, along with the Usenet and BBS underworld of days gone by. So, how is a hacker made? How do you know about and use exploits in code or whatever it is you do? Where can aspiring hackers learn what they need to learn?
usenet is not gone, it's just hiding from the MPAA and the RIAA who apparently haven't figured out it exists yet despite the fact that I have pirated over 30 terabytes of their stuff off it
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Anonymous2007-01-07 8:37
1: REMOVE ANY TRACE OF SOCIAL LIFE.
2: READ MANPAGES
3: THROW COMMANDS AT THINGS AND CAREFULLY DOCUMENT WHAT HAPPENS
4: ???????
5: PARTY V&
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Anonymous2007-01-07 9:01
>>1
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Anonymous2007-01-07 12:03
Hackers already learned it back in the Usenet and BBS underworld of days gone by. If you are just now starting it's too late, you will only be a script kiddy.
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Anonymous2007-01-07 12:51
>>8
Yeah, everything that can be hacked already has been, even the software and hardware that doesn't yet exist. Don't even think about doing something from scratch that's been done before; if it doesn't give us anything new, you're just being a script kiddie.
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Anonymous2007-01-07 21:56
Being a hacker is like being a gonzo journalist. If you call yourself one, you're really kinda not.
The philosophy is simple. You gain knowledge of systems and peoples that you can exploit, then you exploit it to gain more freedom. You deserve to have more freedoms than others; it is your God-given right. You were born with more intelligence than other people and therefore deserve more freedom.
You can either hoard this knowledge to insure your freedoms remain unique or you can spread the wealth (which you might do for a vast variety of reasons).
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Anonymous2007-01-07 22:11
Exploit it to gain more freedom? Hah.
How about being honest about it? It's a kick. It can also be quite lucrative nowadays.
Why do people feel the need to rationalize the reasons for their actions? Is looking in the mirror that hard?
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Anonymous2007-01-07 22:50
hacking isn't really about knowing how to exploit shit, it's just about knowing everything there is to know about something. the more you know about something, the easier it is to exploit, and the more you exploit, the easier it is to get further in your quest to know. it's more of a fringe benefit than a core philosophy.
the core philosophy of hacking is really just an insatiable quest for knowledge. if that knowledge is behind a barrier, that just makes it all the more desirable.
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Anonymous2007-01-07 23:42
if that knowledge is behind a barrier, that just makes it all the more desirable.
Bullshit removed, it translates to nothing more than ego.
There's so much information in the public domain on almost any topic that you could spend a hundreds of lifetimes studying it.
So why the desire for forbidden access? Oh, good for you, you got your mitts on a CC DB.
Humans are driven by ego. those who say they arent "should look in the mirror" stop being a pretentious asshole and realize that fact.
and besides why learn something that, if its on public domain, you already know? the best stuff is hidden away from the general public for the fact that the general public is just a large group of fucktards.
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Anonymous2007-01-09 12:24
Humans are driven by ego.
Oh, so you agree with the statement then? >>12 really is all just bullshit? Why did you feel the need to write that pathetic rationalization then?
Also, contrary to your gut reations, humans largely aren't driven by ego. I recommend you look up Maslow's hierarchy. For someone who talks about knowledge, yours is pretty thin.
if its on public domain, you already know?
No you don't, you dumb shit. Why do people go to school, read books, or have specializations?
Fuck you're dumb.
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Anonymous2007-01-09 14:04
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Ignore the seething mass of faggotry that this thread has spawned. Hacking is about exploring things. Exploring anything from abandoned building, to the inside of your computer. Anything you don't know much about is fair game. Take it apart and or look inside. Getting information someone else doesn't want you to have is an inevitable part of it, but don't let retarded generalizations sway you. Figuring out how to get that information is hacking. Stealing people's credit cards or something is just theft, regardless of whether you use your hands or a computer. Not to say that hacking is "look but don't touch", so much as not being a huge asshole while doing it. Though some people (as previous posters demonstrate) will will be pissed off at you no matter how careful you are. And that's okay because hacking is not about pleasing them.
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Anonymous2007-01-09 15:05
If someone just waltzed into your house without your permission, would you be pissed off, >>17?
Hackers are okay, crackers aren't.
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Anonymous2007-01-09 16:15
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I didn't say one shoud do that. Not literally all information is interesting from a hacker's perspective. How AES works for example would be. That I have a futon in my livingroom is not. If OP ever has any hope of being a hacker, (s)he would be able to use common sense to rationalize stuff like this easily. Also, making more names (black-hat, cracker, etc.) are a bad idea. Let things stand as they are. Someone who reads your email is a stalker no more or less than someone who reads your real mail. A pickpocket is a theif just like someone who cons you on Ebay. Making up labels just because some electronic equipment was involved just gives people something new to call hackers that they don't like. Besides, you don't hear "cracker" being said on CNN. Hacker still means "criminal with a computer" to 90% of people. And it will until there's a real effort to say "criminals are criminals regardless of the means because it is the end that makes them criminals"
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Anonymous2007-01-09 16:24
>>18 zoomj haxxing is not bad, it's the crackers that are bad! >>19 ja i kno! they are so bad! lol we are kewl ok? >>18 yeah we are haxx0r
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