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Trinary code?

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-01 14:04

is this possible?

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-01 15:07

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-01 15:27 (sage)

Get Linux.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-01 15:28

Anything's possible. It's just gonna be really fucking hard to pull off. The reason we're using binary is because it's so damn simple. On/off. That's why we'll never understand women.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-01 19:26

Theoretically, if we ever start using Light instead of Electricity, we could easily do > binary. 5nary could be Black (0), Red (1), Green (2), Blue (3), White (4).

But practically, i have no idea.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-01 20:29

>>5
i know someone who tried to build some kind of light-cpu (or at least he experimented with it), but he said it wouldn't work because it needs something that changes the wavelenght or something instantly, when you send the light through it (like some lens or shit). makes sense, because if you don't have such a thing you would have to generate new light everywhere, which would slow it down.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-01 21:41

hmm there are more than two quantum states, correct?

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-01 23:16

binary is "yes/no"
does that make Trinary "yes/no/maybe"?
does that mean a bit will now be called a tit?
:D
set back gender equality in computing another 10 years!

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-02 0:37

Fuck trinary computing.  Why not just have straight up analog computing whereby each "bit" is a measure of energy that can be any one of an infinite number of states.  This means such analog computers can have notions of infinity, and inherent fuzzy logic, and a whole bunch of other interesting stuff.

Oh wait.  They already got that.  It's called the human brain.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-02 0:38

Furthermore, some of the data storage mechanisms of EAROMs in old arcade boards have three states, a on state, an off state, and an erased or unwritten state.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-02 4:08

There's a dialect of INTERCAL that uses trinary.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-02 4:27

Ternary is the most efficient way to represent data (because it's the closest integer to e). It just happens that binary digits are the simplest to handle algrebraically, even despite stupidity like one's and two's complement.

And ternary computing is very possible; a number of ternary computers have existed.

You might find this of interest: http//www./...

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-02 4:40

By the way, to the guy who said we should go with analog computing, I regret to say that analog computers are rather useless. They're only useful in a few niche domains.

The human brain isn't exactly a true analog machine either. Either an axon fires, or it doesn't. That's not to say it's digital either, far from it (different activation states, neurohormones, sensitivity at a particular synapse, etc). It's pretty weird in there.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-02 5:14

The martians in "A Stranger in a Strange Land" counted in trinary. Powers of 3 and all that shit.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-02 9:13

0, 1, 2, 10, 11, 12, 20, 21, 22, 100 READY OR NOT HERE I COME

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-02 9:30

>>12
Ternary is the most efficient way to represent data (because it's the closest integer to e)
Could you please explain this?

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-02 10:45

yes it's because the state (e^ik)|phi> is the same as |phi> and 3 is closest to e, so yuo get much less errors

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-02 11:54

>>16
The link I provided does a better job than I could hope to do.

I personally think their metric is rather arbitrary, but I'm not a mathematician.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-02 12:09 (sage)

>>17
Please summarize that in 3 words.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-02 12:26

>>12
Since when is two's complement "stupidity"?

Name: J3ph42 !dXldY3fJbY 2006-06-02 12:40

Since all data transmission is electrical impulses, (assuming not net traffic over FO) it is easiest use only two states, easily handled by logic gates and transistors. IT can simply be +5V/0V or +5V/-5V. Quantum computing would allow for trinary computing because you could have "on", "off" and a quantum super-position of the two, both on and off, to make three states. You could try telling the machine to look for more voltage levels as states, but since even the fastest changes in voltage are not QUITE instantaneous, a change in value from lowest to highest voltage will generate a discrete value from another state that it briefly hit along the way.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-02 14:31

>>19

"phase is irrelevant"

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-02 19:16

>>12,18
That was a great read, thanks for the link. Indeed base 3 is more efficient than base 2 (if the hardware were equally as simple), although not being able to easily divide by powers of 2 is a practical drawback (dividing by powers of 2 is more useful than powers of 3).

BTW, two's complement is not stupid!

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-02 20:47 (sage)

I personally think their metric is rather arbitrary, but I'm not a mathematician.
Uou're completely right though. There isn't one optimal base for all (or even most) applications.

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