CFLAG gentoo ricer who believes in Freedom(TM), and wouldn't know a decent UI if it dragged them in a back alley and gang-raped them. Fanboys suck, after all. *sluuuuurp*
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Anonymous2006-02-25 7:58 (sage)
>>2
W-what! I know what a decent UI is, that is why I use Windows XP as my GUI while accessing Gentoo over SSH.
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Anonymous2006-02-25 8:20
I know what a decent UI is, that is why I use Windows XP
I LOLED
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Anonymous2006-02-25 9:42 (sage)
I think they're quite lame. Always touting Linux on desktops when they know it's not ready for prime time. It's still command line hell. Linux is like that program, GIMP. Powerful when you know how to use it, but it looks ugly and feels cumbersome. These fanboys want to topple Windows as the OS of choice but when some clueless newbie tries to ask for help, most of the replies is "RTFM". I'm sure in an alternate universe that's one why to get more users.
On the subject of programs, it is so annoying to see these fanboys go on forums for Window apps and beg for a Linux port. If said program is open source, I just want to yell at them, "The source is right there, port it your damn self!"
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Anonymous2006-02-25 10:30
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I think Linux is sort of ready for primetime as an OS, as some people have packaged it quite well. However I think there needs to be some cleary set of guides/classification system as to which distros are more user friendly, and basic info about how to get things working.
I don't use linux because I don't have the need for it as of now. But I think it'll become a nice a pleasant alternative for those people who want something fairly clean without having to get fork out the $$$ to get a mac.
>>7
Yeah, dude, cuz, like, we all love editing text files when we wanna change our menus. It's so 1337!
Here's a hint: the problem with linux isn't the appearence. Shit, Enlightenment was around a decade ago. The problems lie elsewhere.
Although, I gotta admit, I haven't seen anything OSS so far that is as slick as OSX Tiger. Man, oh, man. I want that.
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Anonymous2006-02-25 18:19
I got bored of flux, so now I'm using xfce4. It's pretty nice, comes with proper GUI configuration utilities. Has a *box style menu but no text file editing. Very very usable.
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Anonymous2006-02-25 18:27
>>9
Does it have Linux menus? (i.e. popup menus sometimes stick open, and figuring out how to close them is really hard, in windows i'd just click anywhere)
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Anonymous2006-02-25 22:23
linux had it's run in '03. didn't last very long obviously.
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Anonymous2006-02-26 2:36
uis are for losers
long live command lines
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Anonymous2006-02-26 3:36
>>12
>uis are for users
>long live command lines, so i can be uber1337
Fixed!
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Anonymous2006-02-26 6:17
>>13
Man, being über1337 sure is nice. I pity the GUI n00bs :'(
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Anonymous2006-02-26 7:06
I pity those who don't understand that the non-geekish would rather click an icon than type some command. Don't expect to expand Linux's userbase any time soon.
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Anonymous2006-02-26 7:17
Some geeks would rather click an icon too.
Sorry guys, I'm sick and tired of dealing with never-ending piles of shit; I've seen too much already. I just want it to fucking work.
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Anonymous2006-02-26 21:07
I think you must all be confused. Linux is not command line, nor does it have a gui, nor does it look like anything. People write command line and gui interfaces to facilitate communication with the kernel. There are reasons one might wish to use Linux at home, for example, one has an old computer and does not want to have to load as many libraries into memmory as one would have to with windows. Also, the only market that Linux isn't a major player in is the PC market, this will most likely remain the case, as around $100.00 US isn't too bad for a product like Windows. Finally, if you are a hobbyist, and you are interested in learning/using a UNIX based OS, I would suggest freeBSD as it is superbly well documented.
oops tl;dr
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Anonymous2006-02-26 22:08
With windows, you start out with quite decent user experience, and then you get better, but it maxes out pretty quickly. In linux, the lowest quality tools are those which want to be like windows and are thus easily understood. You start out with a bad experience, but the longer you use the system the more you can customize it to suit your needs and the quicker and more flexible you'll be when solving problems. Of course, there's no reason for you to believe me on that, so it'd probably have to be a lifestyle choice - like "open source is superior" or "i want to be a leet hacker"
I do not believe that what is powerful has to be complicated, but currently these are the two choices you have
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Anonymous2006-02-26 22:47 (sage)
Linux is not command line, nor does it have a gui, nor does it look like anything.
No shit Sherlock. None of us here knew that. When we were referring to "Linux", we weren't referring to distros or anything. Naaaah, we must be all stupid, and instead have been referring specifically to the kernel.
Wake up numbnuts. Linux is the poster child of OSS, whether you like it or not. When people say "Linux" what they usually mean is the kernel, the utilities, X, and all the shit on top of that. Sometimes they even mean FreeBSD.
>>12
The command line is an UI, stupid. It's just not a GUI.
I agree that CLI is better for 25%..75% of what you do depending of what you do. Even so, I use Windows 2000 with a lot of open sauce on it, because X, the FHS, many base tools, most Linux editors, Linux' graphic drivers, and Linux' graphics performance suck big, hairy, greasy, messy, oozy monkey balls.
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Anonymous2006-02-27 4:47
Linux' graphic drivers, and Linux' graphics performance
You realise nvidia's OpenGL driver runs faster under Linux than it does Winders?
No reply from >>23, eh. Apparently these benchmarks doesn't exist...
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Titan_X2006-02-27 20:40
While Linux can make a decent desktop machine, I still feel it fits in better as a server. I mainly use Linux for web, email and file servers.
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Anonymous2006-02-27 20:47
Linux is a really mediocre OS. Solaris is better for reliability, BSD is better for webservers (OpenBSD in particular) and Windows makes a better desktop (of course).
Linux can fit into all of those roles, but for each of those jobs there are alternatives which are better.