>>66
Let's not resort to name-calling.
Name-calling or truth-stating depending on how you look at it. And what I meant by these is that you don't seem to have computer insight (therefore you shouldn't be talking about tc, much less defending it), and I think you'd be happier living on Cuba (where good fidel has his "trusted citizens" policy) than in Western countries.
How the hell preventing people from stealing causes that?
treacherous computing will prevent hackers from working and developers from working without asking for permission on every step. (Note: "hackers" doesn't mean what you saw on TV and the movies, and no they don't break into hospital networks.) You don't know how a developer works; before supporting something as terrible as treacherous computing, you should know.
Way not to understand the argument. If there was a way to make knives useful to cut meat and useless to kill people, then such a security would be mandatory.
Problem is, there's no way to make computers useful to real users and developers and useless to do what microsoft and riaa don't want you doing.
because computersss change the deal - they can permit legal uses and prevent illegal ones.
You are wrong. Here's some truth:
1. Legal is what's defined by the law, not the treacherous computing corporations
2. It's legal to develop
3. It's legal to run custom software
4. It's legal to copy data for private use
treacherous computing breaks all four points. treacherous computing not only prevents illegal ones, it prevents legit users from doing legal things.
You are comparing large corporations to street gangs.
I wasn't comparing large corporations to street gangs (reread my post), but now that you mention it, I trust a street gang to defend my interests over riaa, mpaa and sony any day.
Corporations are kept in check by the consumers and the governments.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
some corporations want to prevent you from stealing music and movies. You call that greedy?
They don't want to prevent me from stealing music and movies. With treacherous computing, they want to prevent me from doing things they don't like, be them legal or not. This includes running software and being in control of my computer. You're incredibly ingenuous and gullible not to realize this. For example, take microsoft. They don't sell media. They sell OSes. To a certain extent, music piracy helped them. There are more and easier ways to download music illegally on Windows than any other OS. And Windows is what they sell, not music. Why are them on the treacherous computing campaign? Because that way they can hurt their most feared competition ever: free software. microsoft doesn't want me to develop my own tools or use my friend's, they want me to buy $400 professional business industry standard software solutions made by them.
If they were installing security devices in brick-and-mortar shops to prevent stealing, you definitely wouldn't call that greedy, you'd say it is the right thing to do.
Yes, because:
1. The shops aren't mine
2. They only prevent people from stealing, but they don't prevent me from using the shops in any way
3. They don't prevent shop owners from controlling their shops and modifying them in any way they want
4. They don't touch my balls
>>67
Let's say I have a document I absolutely do not want to leave the organization. How would you reliably prevent that from happening with the current system?
You can't, either in this system, bill gates' treacherous computing, or anything. It's a problem inherent to information. If you can't trust your employees, you're bound to fail. Read what
>>69 said.
Which could well be TC.
treacherous computing is not a security layer, it's a rights infringement layer, and it's by no means secure, because as I said, it's ruled by somebody that's not you or your company's authority, and it's obscure security.
I'm only interested in TC unless the only people holding the keys to the systems is the corporate entity that owns the machines
Man, then you are not interested in treacherous computing, end of the story. There's no way to get rid of the bullshit microsoft and media corporations will build into treacherous computing, and there's no way for you to be the one in control. In fact, you must be constantly updating your keys and rules (which is done in the background and without your approval) for treacherous computing software to work. treacherous computing will stay out of your control and be an impediment for your own developed corporate software and IT department, don't doubt it.
>>69
You also apparently have a naive view of corporations.
That's a major understatement.
I smell trolls.
In MY vagina?
>>70
the current laws must be enforced, and TC is one of the many good means to enforce them
Fail. treacherous computing has nothing to do with the law, and it's ruled by maffia organizations who aren't the law but want to be. In fact, it should be illegal.
>>72
Truth