guys just ignore these kind of stuff, even the troll knows that he likes sakuga deep in his heart XD
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Anonymous2011-03-16 10:32
>>437
New chart says the first episode already aired on the 5th, but I haven't found anything yet. I was thinking it was going to be aired on the summer, until I saw the spring chart.
Looking forward to Sueyoshi's segment.
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Kenshin, Himmura2011-03-16 19:05
I tried watching sakuga.got to about the fifth episode then proceded to throw the discs out the window . Sakuga Fails.ew
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Anonymous2011-03-16 23:08
I'm surprised at how many sakuga scenes are in Dragon Crisis. There's almost one good cut every episode...which says a lot. Too bad its wasted on a show like that...
on the bright side, Urobuchi said that Shaft would be taking advantage of the delayed tv broadcasts to fix up the animation
>>444
Masashi Ishihama brought some good people on board DC, but yeah, they're wasted on that show.
Come to think of it, Ishihama not being in charge of the DC OP/ED should have told me something...
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Anonymous2011-03-17 11:24
Just looking at the sakuga of 2010 & 2011, sakuga geberally is getting kind of week, compared to the 90's until 2007.
Maybe it's because the skilled old animators now just work for movies and the new animators are developing right now. Probably we will see some really nice sakuga by young animators in 2015.
>>447
The skilled animators are scattered to every which direction in the industry, which makes most anime kind of inconsistent in terms of quality. When they are all assembled on a single project, then that's where they can show their stuff. Yes, those are mostly in movies, but there are TV shows/OVAs like that too.
There are also groups of up-and-coming talents coming out yearly, so give or take a few years, they'll be able to take over the scene in the future. The problem, in my opinion, is that there are hardly any opportunities for the skilled people to work together on projects, rather than flying around different projects every time.
Well, those sakuga videos of 2010-2011 are kind of misleading as they don't feature movies. If Arietty, Redline, Mai Mai Miracle amd Welcome to the Space Show were included, it would be a very different scene. We also got five consistently sakuga-tastic shows these past 3-4 years: Xam'd, Kaiba, Casshern Sins, Panty & Stocking and Tatami Galaxy. Not to mention K-ON!(!), as much as sakugafags keep fighting over the sakuga-tastic status of that show.
>>443
I know that you are a troll, but I just find it funny that you think "Sakuga" is an anime series that has episodes.
>>450
Hits the nail on the head, the amount of TV shows that are getting a lot of movie level animation is amazing.
And you have to take into account the changes in animation practices. If you watched the documentary on how the Kanon anime was made at KyoAni, during the drawing process, one of the guys explains the type of paper they use has changed. The paper they use nowadays is what as used back in the day for movies only.
The drawing paper is much larger, due to everything needing to be in widescreen and HD.
Is he a young animator? That last scene looks like a gif animation or a fan animation to me.
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Anonymous2011-03-20 8:38
>>454
Born in 1984. The last scene is from a short which he did for Gyao's Animator Lives series in July 2007. He started as gif animator. From his anidb page: http://anidb.net/cr6022
Just discovered a scan of Kiyal's Magical Doujin.
Surprisingly, it turns out to be a really detailed groundwork book for a short-3-minutes anime in Gurren Lagann Parallel Work 2.
Seems like there are same kind of book for The Sense of Wonder and Kittan Zero as well but I can't find the scans anywhere.
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Anonymous2011-03-20 13:16
I wouldn't count Kouichi Kikuta, Ryo-Chimo, Shingo Yamashita &.. as young anmators anymore.
There are many undiscovered young animators in studios between the age of 18-20 with very high skills, mostly in FX but still some of them have more skills that Kikuta, they only need more experience.
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Anonymous2011-03-20 13:49
Animators around ~25-30 ARE still young. An 18-year old something who only just finished high-school is completely unusable as key animator for studios. He may have some artistic drawing skill but he lacks experience, proper tutoring, can't do proper layouts nor is he able to produce results in an actual working environment. A key animator should be able to drawn any kind of animation from any kind of pov and make it polished on top of that. You know, there's a reason why pretty much all professional animators have gone through animation courses at trade schools, studio training schools and/or art colleges before even allowed to draw inbetweens at a real studio.
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Anonymous2011-03-20 14:47
>>458
Hiroyuki Kitakubo started his professional career when he was just 15 years old, but his case seems like the very rare exception rather than the rule.
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Nonoriri2011-03-20 17:23
>>456
Nobody has scanned either of those, and we'll probably never see any done. :(
Really like your blog content the way you put up the things…I’ve read the topic with great interest and definitely will stick your blog routinely for other great posts.
That's not true that 18 years old animators at studios are not as good as older animators. AGE DOESN'T MATTER ANYMORE, OLD ANIMATOR DOESNT MEAN MORE EXPERIENCE ANYMORE, it's not the 90's here.
The FX Animation director of the new .hack//Quantum anime is 18 years old.
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Anonymous2011-03-21 6:08
>>461
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Disagree, although you will find some exceptionally skilled younger animators, there is absolutely no replacement for pencil mileage, experience, and sheer drawing repetition that older senior key animators have accumulated over decades. Better knowledge, better solutions, better fundamentals, and most likely more efficient.
Some of the best animators in Japan started out by working in FX, or if not, they've at least dabbled in it. Younger guys being in charge of that job shouldn't be that uncommon.
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Anonymous2011-03-21 12:04
Lolz at that psychotic rant about my trolling efforts. still I stand by my opinion. Sakuga in all forms is pointlessly idiotic.
"Just discovered a scan of Kiyal's Magical Doujin."
Could you share a link? I've been looking out for that for some time now.
Shame to see spam accumulating here. Has anyone emailed moot about getting a janitor or mod for the discussion boards?
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Anonymous2011-03-22 2:47
As for the age debate, I definitely agree with, >>458
25-30 is still a young animator. However, the kind of experience and seniority you're talking about is more for animation direction than simply key animators. You don't have to be all that experienced to do key animation for a TV-anime, as long as you're talented and productive, because the more experienced animators are there to correct the drawings and in-betweeners are there to clean.