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Sakuga Thread #1

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-08 8:47

So here's an attempt at to get some long term Sakuga discussion going here.

Some Links:
The Sakuga Wiki [JP] - http://www18.atwiki.jp/sakuga/
ANN - http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/

English Sakuga Blogs:
http://aninomiyako.wordpress.com/
http://www.pelleas.net/aniTOP/

English Sakuga Twitters:
http://twitter.com/raito_kun
http://twitter.com/Duune99
http://twitter.com/kyouray
http://twitter.com/catsuka

To start things off, here's a Summer Wars MAD with Key animator's listed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpoHxWV3IG0

Name: Heather Hot 2011-02-02 21:01

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-02 22:12

I would like a janitor for /dis/ ...

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-02 22:25

>>202
That would be nice. Hell, a captcha would keep away most of the spam..

We've basically set up shop in the Mad Max world of 4chan.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-03 2:45

>I've noticed they go for immense detail in the still shots over actual movements in many of the scenes(looks very nice in HD). Perhaps this is just a feature of Obari's works? I know this was how many anime used to be made in 80s OVAs.


That could be, since Obari started out working on those old AIC OVAs in the 80s. I think he began work on Iczer - 1, if I'm not mistaken. And if so, that would mean he worked with Naoyuki Onda, who is known for his maniacal attention to detail when it comes to drawing mecha.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-03 4:09

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPJHrCZbYuw

A new version of the January MAD. This time with Fractale and Heartcatch

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-03 11:20

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-03 12:31

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bchNOVydJzA

Another sakuga video with scenes from January.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-03 16:01

Someone posted the photo of k-on calendar in k-on general thread and it has the name of the illustrator in English.

It seems that the name of the series director of Idol M@aster anime(高雄統子) is actually Noriko Takao not Touko Takao.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-03 16:25

>>204
Obari's first big gig was Mecha designer on Dancougar(shared with Hisashi Hirai, who now oddly only does character design work). Obari also did genga on many episodes and was sakkan on 2 eps. He was really young back then, like about 19-21 years old. Iczer was what he went on to next. But yeah, he probably picked up many things during his time doing those OVAs.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-03 17:07

>>207
Now this is a good MAD, its got a lot more of the better stuff in it.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-03 18:57

>>205

Thanks! Animeblue improved his MAD in v2, but a cross between v1 and v2 would be best. While including Precure and Fractale is great, I don't know why all of Yumekui Merry had to be removed.

>>207

Ah, this is good, aside from a couple of cuts that honestly aren't all that special, it's generally very inclusive, and adding the episode numbers is certainly useful. Interesting that this one includes Hironori Tanaka's charge attack in Star Driver 15, but no Tomioka's part in that episode.

It's good having several of them every month.

>>208
Are you saying that Noriko Takao is a different person to Touko Takao or that it's the correct reading of her name?

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-03 19:45

>>211
Just her name.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-04 1:15

so anybody know who did the animation for the fight in this week's Yumkeui Merry? It was off-model most of time but it was hella smooth

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-04 2:45

That was Ryochimo (Ryouske Sawa) He did a lot of the good stuff in Birdy Decode s1 and 2 as well as Yozakura Quartet: Hoshi no Umi (OAD).  I was actually really suprised when I saw it and wasn't sure it was him until saw the animation ignoring gravity completely (which doesn't really bother me too much) but that's how you pick him out.  Him, Tomioka, and Tanaka are probably my favorite animators out there right now.

Heres a good MAD for him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQIKl9UweXI

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-04 5:23

Ryochimo huh? Heh I'm not so good at picking out his style

still its good to see him doing some animation from time to time, its still long ways off until the next Yozakura Qaurtet OAD comes out

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-04 5:32

Ryochimo's stuff looks a bit wobbly and jiggly, but still makes sense while moving. His experience as a former .gif animator definitely influenced that, though I think his work is a little less rough than say, Shingo Yamashita or Kenichi Kutsuna, who are also former .gif animators.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-04 6:50

>>213
>>214
Um no, Ryochimo works on Fractale 4, not sure which cut though. I'm kinda sure Merry vs Play animated by Tanaka, saw his name on Key Animator Staff too.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-04 15:50

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6TheFOPbJQ

Four short tv specials, produced as part of the Young Animators Project (若手アニメーター育成プロジェクト) and to be aired starting March 6 on MBS.

Website:
http://pp1-e07a.blogspot.com/
http://janica.jp/pja/

Info&Staff

http://anidb.net/a8255
Short1: Kizuna Ichigeki
Direction: Hongou Mitsuru    
Character Design&Animation Direction: Sueyoshi Yuuichirou    
Assistant Animation Direction: Uemura Jun
Work: ascension

http://anidb.net/a8256
Short2: Ojii-san no Lamp
Direction: Takiguchi Teiichi
Character Design&Assistant Animation Direction: Takasu Miyako
Animation Direction: Tomonaga Kazuhide
Work: Telecom Animation Film

http://anidb.net/a8257
Short3: Bannou Yasai Ninninman
Direction&Character Design: Yoshihara Masayuki    
Animation Direction: Kawazura Kousuke    
Assistant Animation Direction: Kurakawa Hideaki
Work: P.A. Works

http://anidb.net/a8143
Short4: Tansu Warashi.
Original Plan: Kise Kazuchika
Direction: Kise Kazuchika
Character Design: Kise Kazuchika
Animation Direction: Kaiya Toshihisa    
Assistant Animation Direction: Katagiri Kiyu
Work: Production I.G

I really like the character design and animation in the first short, Sueyoshi is the character designer and animation supervisor on that.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-04 17:54

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq1v9WwHp7o

A short animation by film director Tsukamoto Shin'ya.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 8:14

>>218
>Yuichiro Sueyoshi

Oh shit.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 8:37

Just watched the Janica PVs. Hot damn, Sueyoshi is really good. His character design work is just really fun to watch in motion.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-05 8:42

Haruhi is the best!

ideal2004jp23@yahoo.com

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-06 20:52

The dancing scene in this weeks Star Driver was really nice.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-07 6:13

Sadly I've been really busy and haven't been able to contribute to the thread. I watched Fractale and Yumekui Merry though, and thuroughly enjoyed those episodes.

Tanaka Hironori's part in Merry #5 sure was unusual for him, or at least I thought so, although I can't really put my finger on why. The pace of the animation in the fight just felt different to his typical style.

Any thoughts on which part of Fractale 4 was Ryo-chimo's? I really like Ryo-chimo (loved the new Yozakura Quartet OVA). I thought his part was with the crowd at the start around 2.37, judging by the faces, but I've heard suggestions it may have been the scene with Nessa and Clain on the at around 14 min.

>>223

Looking forward to seeing that!

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-07 9:16

I also think it was with the crowd scene at the beginning because the faces and hands if you will reminded me of Ryochimo's cut from Baccano, the part where Firo cuts that immortal guy's hand

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-07 9:25

The NESSA NESSA NESSA NESSA part looks just like his Nia animation from episode 14 of Gurren.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-07 12:20

After rewatching both scenes, now I'm sure the NESSA NESSA NESSA NESSA part was Ryochimo's contribution for Fractale 4.

Chimo's scene in Gurren 14:
http://i.imgur.com/xpJPS.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/3GT6I.jpg

The NESSA NESSA NESSA NESSA scene in Fractale 4:
http://i.imgur.com/6BgG8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/lIVQ3.jpg

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-07 14:00

Sakugabros, recommend me some consistently well animated mecha anime that:

-Isn't by Bones or Gainax
-Isn't a Gundam OVA
-Isn't Macross Plus

Any ideas?

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-07 14:43

>>228
You won't find much if you look at the 80s TV market, so you're going to have to look in the OVAs and the 90s if you really want a TV series.

I remember some really nice spots in Escaflowne.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-07 14:43

>>229
Oh, and the 2000s, but since I'm really not a /m/an, I can't help you much.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-07 15:34

>>228

Full Metal Panic:TSR

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-07 18:03

Resident /m/echa bro here(also Obari guy from before), I'll see if I can help.
>>231
Is a good choice. Its by KyoAni from about 2006. Its 12-13 episodes and features a lot of KyoAni's consistency and great artwork. I've always liked KyoAni's style but am always upset they waste it on simple slice of life shows. FMP:TSR is one of the shows where they go out and show off all sorts of great action scenes.

You then have the more recent Broken Blade series, which is a joint between Xebec and Production IG. Its a series of movies so the budget is very high. Though the characters are very simplistic in design so they are not my cup of tea. But the mecha action is absolutely stunning, they really depict the weight and heavyness of giant 20-30m robots stumbling and fumbling about. Its worth checking out.

Shin Getter Robo Armageddon or Change!! Shin Getter Robo Sekai Saigo no hi, depending on how you look at the name, is a very well animated OVA. My favourite scene from the OVA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5zjDpYPgLY#t=7m00s - grab the HD remastered releases if you can, the show looks absolutely stunning there.

Another by the same studio is the Mazikaiser OVA, 7 episodes. Also very stunning to watch. Though be wary of the movie that comes after, they shifted over to digital aided animation, whereas the OVA was all cell based I believe, and the movie comes off quite "plain" or "plasticy" like many anime shows do at that time when companies were just switching over to digital animation.

I have not seen Escalfowne, but from what I understand was a Sunrise Studio 2 production, Cowboy Bebop was their last production. I don't know if people know, but people from Studio 2 went on to form their own studio, which we now know as Studio BONES. Hence why BONES's first work was working on the Cowboy Bebop movie. Many of those from Sunrise Studio 2 now reside in Studio B of BONES. Studio B of BONES handle many of their mecha shows(Though Star Driver is by their C studio who mostly do the 'other' shows like Ouran, Soul Eater, Darker than Black etc..). That said, Escalfowne featured quite a few episodes where Yutaka Nakamura worked on, so I believe its worth checking out. In essence its a BONES show before BONES were formed.

One show I've seen pop up often is a TV series called Generator Gawl, its not quite mecha, but it features a dude in a giant suit of armour, so the concept is similar. The reason I see it pop up often is because it has a very talented staff behind the helm, names including Sushio, Imaishi, Yutaka Nakamura(again). See the OP - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_mjFGym-xI

If you feel you can withstand about 25 episodes of Monster of the Week, then GaoGaiGar is worth a watch. Their stock footage is really well done and at about episode 25, the story really shifts gear and drops the MotW concept. With episodes 29 and 30 probably the best the show has to offer.

One show I hear often about but haven't seen is Giant Robo, I know very little about it but hear its well animated as its also an OVA.

Phew, that took me a while but hope that helps.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-07 18:20

>>228
Only TV or anything goes?

Anyway, some recs from the top of my head.
Giant Robo
Bubblegum Crisis - the original OVA series, http://anidb.net/a68 Also any other mecha that AIC made with before the digital switch end of '90s, like Iczer, Gall Force, Dragon`s Heaven (!!) which has Oohira Shin'ya as mecha AD, and lots of other great stuff.
Patlabor (esp. the 2nd film)
Getter Robo: Armageddon
Xanadu Dragonslayer Densetsu
Yamato 2520
Mazinkaiser
Sunrise does always deliver on the mecha animation, while the rest of their shows often show big discrepancies.
Escaflowne, Big O, Overman King Gainer and Turn A Gundam are probably the most consistent and have a good number of very interesting episodes and have good direction on top.
But Code Geass, the Mai-* series, and anything else is has also good mecha action.
Full Metal Panic TSR (not the first one though, that was quite horrid for most part)
Gaiking - The remake. Can't remember any particularly bad parts, and it has many many great scenes by Obari, Imaishi, Kanada (!), etc.
Samurai 7 - It is consistent for a Gonzo show and CG aside there are some really, really amazing episodes (7&23).
Nadesico
Aquarion - Maybe not consistent, but you wouldn't want to miss some of its episodes.

For shows which have different kind of mecha than the usual Giant Robots:
Cowboy Bebop
Outlaw Star
Irresponsible Captain Tylor
The SoulTaker
Figure 17
Hakaima Sadamitsu
Strike Witches
Robot Carnival
Halo Legends and Karas have good hand drawn animation and even somewhat good CG.
Ghost in the Shell films and SAC
Space Pirate Mito
Arjuna
Noein
Trava Fist Planet

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-07 18:36

No mention of Medabots? I know they aren't mecha, but the show had pretty damn good animation.

sadfrog.jpg

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-07 18:49

>>234
I guess it just slipped my mind, but Medabots is a good choice.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-07 18:52

>>234
Ando's Medabots OP is god-tier

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-07 22:26

According to the SakugaWiki, these are the best or most interestingly animated mecha anime of all time:

OVAs:
Gundam 0080, 0083
FLCL, Gunbuster and Diebuster
Giant Robo
VOTOMS: Shining Heresy
Macross Plus
Related: Karas

TV:
Eureka, Rahxephon, Xam'd
Gurren, Evangelion
Escaflowne
Layzner
Zillion
Neo Ranga
Revenge of Chronos
Medabots
Related: Bebop, GitS: SAC (both), Casshern Sins, Cobra, Rayearth

Movies:
Patlabor movies
Macross: Do You Remember Love?
Escaflowne movie
End of Eva, both Rebuild movies
Both Gurren movies
Char's Counterattack
Related: GitS (both), Sky Crawlers, Bebop movie, Honneamise, Rojin Z, Steamboy, Animatrix, Dead Leaves

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-08 1:17

>>237
A good list indeed.

Not quite related to the request above as most of it is Bones, Gainax, Gundam and Macross. Well, can't help that I guess.

Also, can't remember Layzner as that outstanding but shame on me for forgetting to mention Zillion earlier. Was overall really good plus AMAZING opening.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7FMinLBEYU

And yeah, Casshern Sins is obviously mecha as well. Another shame on me.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-08 1:32

>>238
Speaking of OPs. There was an article on style.fm a few days ago.
"18 openings Nishio Tetsuya never grows tired of watching."
http://www.style.fm/as/04_watch/2011/026.shtml

The list:
Spoon Oba-san - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywCaTVD1tCk
Haja Taisei Dangaiou - http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTM3NTcyNTk2.html
Cowboy Bebop - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6zDfxZ4NcE
High School! Kimengumi OP5 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTNmNb9X58w
Akai Koudan Zillion - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7FMinLBEYU
Kachou Ouji: Hard Rock Save the Space - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vThuE-6EAXU
CITY HUNTER 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y-cJI0Cl0s
Sci-Fi HARRY - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DINdwHHG0T4
Kikou Soseiki Mospeada - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqy55RqyTyo
Ochame na Futago: Clare Gakuin Monogatari - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqQwDy7zptw
Anmitsu Hime - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmi8bTWZP3o
HARELUYA II BOY - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_bOtGfJMIY
DAICON IV - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qico2XQ92as
NARUTO OP2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jt2fPP0-3E
NARUTO OP5 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0B_BJJwBO4
Full Metal Alchemist OP4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux7Wh8V0S48
Zeta Gundam OP2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iyinXugttI
Choujuu Kishin Dancougar OP2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ij1CYyUQ3k

Browsing the SakugaWiki OP/ED list I was somewhat surprised not to see Zillion and a number of others from his list there.

In any case, an interesting list and interesting comments.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-08 1:46


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