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Sakuga Thread #1

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-08 8:47

So here's an attempt at to get some long term Sakuga discussion going here.

Some Links:
The Sakuga Wiki [JP] - http://www18.atwiki.jp/sakuga/
ANN - http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/

English Sakuga Blogs:
http://aninomiyako.wordpress.com/
http://www.pelleas.net/aniTOP/

English Sakuga Twitters:
http://twitter.com/raito_kun
http://twitter.com/Duune99
http://twitter.com/kyouray
http://twitter.com/catsuka

To start things off, here's a Summer Wars MAD with Key animator's listed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpoHxWV3IG0

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-08 8:53

So what is Sakuga's exact definition anyway?

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-08 8:56

>>2
The general meaning just refers to drawings used in anime, but for threads like this, and in Japan, its often used to refer to scenes or drawings in anime with very high quality, be it in the detail of the art or the really good fluidity of the movement.

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-08 8:58

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-08 9:12

What are some anime with decent to great ''sakuga''?

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-08 9:19

>>5
http://2chan.us/wordpress/2010/05/01/sakugawikis-list-of-recommended-sakuga-anime/

Generally any movie by Studio Ghibli has great animation.

Oh and any theatrical movie from Madhouse and Production IG too.

Studio BONES anime have great level of animation in their TV shows. See the recent Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood for lots of nice animation.

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-08 9:26

http://green-oval.net/cgi-board.pl/a/thread/38526166
Looks liken a troll thread but really informative

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-08 9:30

A staff list for the upcoming PSG episodes
Broadcast 11
Episode 23
Director/Storyboard/Animation Director: Yoh Yoshinari
Episode 24
Director/Storyboard: Tadashi Hiramatsu
Animation Director: Shouko Nishigaki

Broadcast 12
Episode 25
Storyboard: Hiroyuki Imaishi
Director: Junichi Uematsu
Animation Director: Hirokazu Kojima
Episode 26
Director: Masahiko Otsuka
Storyboard/Animation Director: Atsushi Nishigori

Broadcast 13 (END)
Episode 27
Director/Storyboard: Hiroyuki Imaishi
Animation Director: Sushio

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-08 9:35

sakugafag =/= animationfag
just saying

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-08 9:37

Star Driver staff

Episode 11: “Private Applications of Cybodies”
{nearly identical to the last one}
Enokido Youji – Fuchigami Makoto – Kaneko Shingo – Haga Hitoshi

Episode 12: “A Kiss Thorough the Glass”
As a result of Simone’s defeat, Adult Bank is forced into a corner. For the sake of the new world she herself is aiming at, Kanako thinks to take down Takuto, the obstacle to her plans, with her own hands. Even though she worries that she might kill him if she fights all out for real, several days later Kanako pilots the Cybody Betreida.
Enokido Youji – Iwasaki Tarou – Iwasaki Tarou – Sasaki Atsuko

Episode 13: “The Lovestruck Red Sword”
One Sunday morning, the most accomplished swordsman in the school, Benio Shinada, appears at Sugata’s house, proposing fencing practice. Sugata recommends that she practice with Takuto, and Benio beats him handily.
Enokido Youji – Takahashi Kenji? – Ikezoe Takahiro – Ito Hideki, Komori Shigehiro?, Inadome Kazumi

----

The staff are almost always listed in this order:

Scriptwriter - Episode Director - Episode Storyboarder - Episode Animation Director(s)

The last one varies as it can range from one person to 3 people.

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-08 9:38

>>9
What does that mean?

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-08 9:46

>>11
sakugafag focus toward drawings
animationfag focus toward animation

but since there are not animation thread existed, most of us end up in sakuga thread

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-08 9:52

>>12
Oh right, I just assumed both animation and drawing fell under the same term. Because when people post "Sakuga MAD" you usually have really nice animated scenes from anime.

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-08 9:54

>>12
The word 'sakuga' itself literally mean drawing but when people talking about sakuga, they always refer to the animation.

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-08 12:30

>>8
>Yoshinari
>Hiramatsu+Nishigaki
>Nishigori
>IMAISHI+SUSHIO

FAPFAPFAPFAPFAPFAPFAPFAPFAPFAPFAPFAPFAPFAP

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-08 12:52

>>12
Nowadays "sakuga" goes for both animation and art. It's one of those words, not unlike "moe", whose original meaning got twisted. Better just accept it, really.

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-08 14:19

Ok, and what about the "Kanada" style?
Is it some style of Sakuga?

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-08 14:28

>>17
Refers to the animator who pioneered the wacky and extreme style of animation, but also managed to do it using a fewer number of frames or something. Basically made producing anime cheaper but still could have style.

The most common modern examples are perhaps scenes from FLCL or Gurren Lagann.

Here's a video clip showing the style in action from the man himself and others who use it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aEmATUt2SY

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-08 14:56

>>17
Kanada is well-known for his highly dynamic timing.
Some drawing may lasts for 4 frames while the next drawing may last only 1 frame.
This allows his animation to has a really good weight and impact while using a fewer number of frames.

His drawing is very over-exaggerated, he packs a lot of action and detail into 1 frame.

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-09 14:55

I've always thought of Takeshi Koike as part of the Kanada-school of animation, but I guess I was wrong. He just has a similar style  to Hiroyuki Imaishi.

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-10 13:38

Any upcoming anime worth watching from a Sakuga perspective? I know the recent Bleach movie has Hironori Tanaka on it storyboarding several key scenes.

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-10 15:05

>>21
Wasn't Tanaka being involved in Bleach movie 4 only a rumor?

And for my money I think you might want to check out IS. It's by Satelight/8-bit, so it'd have high production values. Gosick too, if only because Bones.

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-10 18:49

>>22
>Wasn't Tanaka being involved in Bleach movie 4 only a rumor?
Perhaps it was, but having looked at some of the trailers and preview footage, it does have a Tanaka flair to it in places...

The only credit I've seen for 8-bit is the second Evangelion film.
And these days Satelight are not all that great after their best animators who worked on Noein left, they havent been the same.

Don't quote me on this but I believe 8-bit are made up of those who left after Noein..

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-11 2:01

>>23
8-bit is a Satelight splinter from their Osaka branch, iirc, and they're credited for major work on the first Macross F film. It was good work.

Anyway, I might have to check out Bleach movie 4 then, if only because Tanaka could be in it. One DEEN show actually has Masashi Ishihama onboard--Dragon Crisis, I think--and that should be worth checking out. Also, that Shaft show, Madoka Magica.

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-12 10:25

>>24
I enjoyed the new scenes in the Macross F movie, however at the same time there was quite a few jarring moments, one I can recall really well is a scene where the background is animated in motion, and when the background stops moving they switch the background to a generic CG background and the transition is just so jarring.

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-12 11:02

>>25
I see. Yeah, the Japanese still can't do CG integration like that very well yet, but I think that's just because of industry conditions. Overall, I thought the Macross F film was nice to watch. At least it wasn't Gonzo-level CG.

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-13 13:22

Nice Tanaka(?) scene from Sora Otoshi -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XQt8GoCIFw

I don't watch this anime, but was that from the most recent episode?

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-16 12:14

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-20 20:37

So much for trying out this thread.

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-21 4:46

People should be back once the final episode of Panty & Stocking airs. I'm hoping to get my mind blown this time, since it's the core team's episode--though I'd like there to be a Miyazawa climax in it somewhere.

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-21 7:05

Seems like Sushio just finished his work on the final episode of PSG hours ago.

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-21 8:20

>>31
Oh damn. Yoshinari wasn't able to come on the livestream sometime ago because of his work on the finale. They must be busting their asses off for this one.

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-22 8:12

Details from today's Gainax's live commentary:
-The production for final episode is completed.
-Sushio, Animation Director of the final episode, is really fucking exhausted; he hasn't bathed in a week, they say. However, he says that he is really proud of his work and that he is expecting to WOW people in the same in which he WOW-ed people with Gurren episode 15.
-They flat out called the Demon Sisters' scene 百合 (Yuri).
-To make up for the recap episode, they're going to add a BD/DVD-exclusive episode on the final BD release.
-The DJ at the Rock Foundation party is Taku Takahashi drawn in P&S style.
-Brief's VA said that while playing Brief in episode 12B, he made sure to feel like if he was "piloting a Gundam".
-The staff actually checks out Pixiv's fanart; they were happy when they saw today's top 10.
-To make sure to draw Panty's feelings accuratedly, all the scenes with Briefers and Panty were left to the female animators.
-They're releasing an art-book at the Talk Live Animated event.
Wakabayashi and Nishigori are looking forward to the doujinshi fans come up with for C79: "Please work hard, everyone!"

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-22 9:01

>Sushio, Animation Director of the final episode, is really fucking exhausted; he hasn't bathed in a week, they say. However, he says that he is really proud of his work and that he is expecting to WOW people in the same in which he WOW-ed people with Gurren episode 15.

>he hasn't bathed in a week


Holy motherfucking shit. Gainax better not disappoint with the final episode now.

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-26 8:59

So what did everyone think about PSG's final episode's animation?

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-26 12:53

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Name: Anonymous 2010-12-27 8:00

>>36
Electrifying, but I found it slightly weaker than TTGL #15 or #27.

Name: Anonymous 2010-12-27 17:09

It was alright, but nothing thrilling.

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