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Change of attitude regarding speedsubs

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-22 12:41

What's with the change of attitude regarding speed- and qualitysubs? You know. Back in the times when Aone (considered quality group) used to release like >15 subs/month and Naruto Anime was still somewhat cool and not a pile of fillers.
People used to watch "quality" subs. A-E, Triad, Aone, L-E etc. where the groups of choice for almost everything. The (in the beginning) few people who watched speedsubs were considered dumb or as newbies (well they often were).
But then, for no apparent reason, the way things used to be and the "scene" changed. Today almost everyone is gay -not for bridget- but for speedsubs. DB and other groups like this get their subs multiple times more often downloaded than stuff from groups like Lunar.
And in the meantime the majority of /a/ considers one to be a looser for watching Mai Otome from Static subs instead of Doremi (speedsubbers). Main arguments are like "lol fancy karaoke" and "I hope you enjoy your uberstyled subs". Well of course I keep thinking "Yeah and I hope you enjoyed your crappy encode and the even worse translation" but nevermind.

How do you explain this change of attitude?

Name: Anonymous 2006-02-26 15:58

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Softsubs would play into minimal typesetting and personally, I don't feel there's a need to go overboard and translate everything on screen.  Just translate what's in context. Spoken dialogue goes on the bottom of the screen and anything else goes on top, just like in the good old days.  So this would be a plus for me rather than a minus.

But back when I downloaded raws for the shows I was following, softsubs made a lot of sense to me.  Everyone gets the video from the same torrent, filling it with lots of seeds.  People who can't wait can watch the raw immeidately.  When group x releases a subfile a week later, just have to grab that.  No video re-encoding.  No colour bleeding from the hardsubs into the picture.  Maybe hue/saturation adjustment + post processing options in the decoder and you're set.

If you have a shitty sub, then someone is bound to fix it up and upload it again.  Version 2 or version 3?  No problem, just have to grab a new subfile not the entire file again.  Bonus: when you play that H264 video fullscreen, your softsubs will scale and keep their crispness.

But back to the topic on hand; I agree that BT has a large part to do with the speedsubber trend, I just feel that it's not because they can, that speedsubbers showed up. I think it has more to do with the large groups burning out (+ getting their projects licensed) and people coming out to fill in the void.

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