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Lolicon? Lolita? How so?

Name: Anonymous 2005-05-14 13:58

What's the line between loli and not-loli?  I'd say 14 and above is not, but up to 13 could be.  Lolita herself is 12 when Humbert meets her, and later writes that girls stop being nyphets at around 14.  (If you're wondering who Humbert is, this next part will shock you.)  Of course, a lolita complex has nothing to do with a young age in particular.  The lolita complex is about finding a relationship with somebody the same age as the last time he had the feelings.  (Humbert has his first sexual experience and love with a girl of 14, who then dies of typhus.)

At 14, somebody understands what sex really is.  They may not be or feel mature enough for it yet, but they understand it.  At 14, one is biologicaly an adult.  So, thoughts?

Name: Anonymous 2005-05-14 17:07

For me, it's Kouyama Mitsuki-chan!

Name: Anonymous 2005-05-15 19:37 (sage)

One is legally an adult at 18, so the line should be 17.

Name: Anonymous 2005-05-16 23:44

Only the age of consent is lower in some states.  It's 16 in Japan I believe. 

Name: Anonymous 2005-05-17 1:33

>>3
DISAPPROVED BY THE MEMBERS OF THE UNITED NATION

Name: Anonymous 2005-05-17 8:42 (sage)

>4
I don't know why so many gaijin believe that.
Do they think Japan is lolicon heaven or something?

No, it's 18 in Japan, too.

Name: Anonymous 2005-05-17 17:17

>>6

It is now.  Very recently (last few years) Japan upped the age to 18 from 12 due to international pressure.  Hey, in America, it's usually 16, and in Louisiana it's 14.  Still a far cry from lolicon, but lower than other places.  Canada is 14 nationally, though.  Plus, there is the issue of how well it is enforced.  Plus, there's a difference between age of concent and the age at which participation in pornoraphy is legal.  www.ageofconcent.com is a good resource.

Name: Anonymous 2005-05-17 22:45

as long as the girl is hot that should be her age of consent. Some girls start getting hot at age 12. Well when I was 12, all my female classmates started becoming hot babes.

Name: Anonymous 2005-05-20 15:24

Yeah, that's why it's more accepted for an underage guy to have sex with an underage girl, as opposed to an underaged girl and an older guy that should be staying with girls his own age, rather than ripping people apart with his gigantic dick. 

Name: Anonymous 2005-05-20 22:53 (sage)

>>8
When I was 12, the class a year above me was full of tall voluptuous babes when it finished elementary. Meanwhile the girls in the class below me stayed short and flat chested two years later when they finished. Genetics can be a funny thing.

I think age of consent dependends on the girl's mental state and sex education, as well as physical development. And don't forget just because a girl CAN give consent, that doesn't mean they will. If you look at countries that have more thorough sex ed, they tend to have lower rates of teen pregnancy than those who don't.

Name: Anonymous 2005-05-22 21:56

>>10
Those girls that have had thorough sex ed just realize the kind of shit they can get into if they are not careful.

Name: Anonymous 2005-05-22 22:30

>>9
Actually how does it go then. Assuming the age of consent was liek 18, if a 12 yr old boy and a 12 yr gal had consensual sex and their parents find out. The gal's parents can charge the boy for underage sex but the it can also apply vice versa.

Name: Anonymous 2005-05-29 6:43

The legal age in various locales is totally irrelevant to this topic.

Name: Sargeant Stinky 2005-05-30 11:28

With loliCON, e.g. lolita complex aka pedophilia, I'd say it's not about age, it's about boobs.  If she's old enough to have boobs, she's not loli anymore.  If she's flat-chested and has a childish build, I don't care if she's 34, she's still loli.

However, this has nothing to do with LEGALITY, mind you.

Name: Anonymous 2005-05-30 17:52

There's plenty of flat chested eighteen year olds, as well as thirty year olds.

Name: Anonymous 2005-05-30 17:53 (sage)

>>11
And that's one part of the purpose of sex ed isn't it?

Name: Anonymous 2005-05-31 0:26

>>15
And they're still loli

Name: Anonymous 2005-06-01 0:22

I love lolicon. ^_^

Name: Anonymous 2005-06-01 4:41

But let us be prim and civilized. Humbert Humbert tried hard to be good. Really and truly, he id. He had the utmost respect for ordinary children, with their purity and vulnerability, and under no circumstances would he have interfered with the innocence of a child, if there was the least risk of a row. But how his heart beat when, among the innocent throng, he espied a demon child, "enfant charmante et fourbe," dim eyes, bright lips, ten years in jail if you only show her you are looking at her.
So life went. Humbert was perfectly capable of intercourse with Eve, but it
was Lilith he longed for. The bud-stage of breast development appears early
(10.7 years) in the sequence of somatic changes accompanying pubescence. And
the next maturational item available is the first appearance of pigmented
pubic hair (11.2 years). My little cup brims with tiddles.

Name: Anonymous 2005-06-02 22:39

>>19
what

Name: Anonymous 2005-06-07 2:21

>>20
"Lolita" - Vladimir Nabokov

Name: Anonymous 2005-06-07 2:26

>>20
"Lolita" - Vladimir Nabokov

Name: Anonymous 2005-06-07 2:29

>>20
"Lolita" - Vladimir Nabokov

Name: Anonymous 2005-06-07 2:37

LOL TRIPLE POST
OTL
And no delete button either -_-

So this post isn't completely worthless, allow me to interject:
>>7
You spelled "consent" incorrectly. The proper website address is www.ageofconsent.com

Name: Anonymous 2005-06-14 9:58 (sage)

why is this thread in /anime/ :confused:

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-01 19:19

Spain's age of consent is 13.
For Mexico and the Phillipines, 12.

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-03 23:35

<16. 16 and over seems to be socially acceptable to date some up to and over 25. At least here it is.

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-26 9:04

>>7

In Japan,It`s 18 for long long time.
I`m correct `cos I`m japanese.

If I love 14 or 15 years old girl. Most of friends say "You are crazy."

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-26 9:31

lolita complex very common

Name: Anonymous 2008-04-26 9:35

>25
many manga/anime full of lolita action and it is a big problem among fans

Name: Anon 2008-05-10 19:39

>31 Why is it a problem?

Name: call me yo 2008-05-11 16:40

>32
no idea ask a phsiciatrist why all the anime nerds develope a fetish for inocent little girls or better yet ask one they are everywhere on 7chan


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Name: < 2008-05-12 16:57

same with 420 2 and 12

Name: Anonymous 2008-05-12 22:02

who the hell is humbert

Name: Anonymous 2008-05-18 18:33

hi

Name: Anonymous 2008-05-24 3:25

It's 9 in Yemen, if you're muslim and marry her.

Name: henk boktor 2008-05-31 6:59

muslims are dirty idiots

Name: dumby 2008-06-01 0:39

I love girls from age 5 to 12, if it was legal to have sex with them - even if it was only for oral, i would - and i have.

Name: Anonymous 2008-06-01 22:40

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